A True Leader

It has been almost 10 years since the great leader of the Iglesia Ni Cristo passed away. The memory of Brother Eraño G. Manalo cannot be wiped away. He exemplified a true leader of God. One who cared for the sheep and tended to our needs.

 

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The work of a true pastor of the Lord is not simply preaching. They KNOW the needs of the servants of God. How does a leader get to know the needs of the servants? He does not merely rely on hearsay or by word of mouth. He finds out for himself. He listens and finds out their concerns and their fears. That’s what Jesus said:

“I am the good shepherd. As the Father knows me and I know the Father, in the same way I know my sheep and they know me. And I am willing to die for them.” John 10:14

 

How do you get to know them if you don’t even take the time to talk to them? Brother Eraño was amazing at that. He spoke to the people. He asked them their names, how they were, where they are from, what is it that they wanted to talk to them about and he remembered them. There was no express meet and greetwhere people are shuffled through a line and you get to touch one hand, a picture is taken and then you are herded off into the nearest exit. It used to be a real meeting and an experience.

 

Brother Eraño really spoke to people so he knew there were differences in cultures, in countries, in livelihood, and even in seasons.

 

He knew it did not make sense to hold grand evangelical missions if it was hurricane season or if it was winter season and people would have difficulties driving in snow. He knew that the lifestyles and livelihood of church members in Japan were different from the church members in New York.

 

Brother Eraño even knew that certain activities did not fit some cultures so he did not insist on them.

 

Nowadays, it seems the current Church “leader” will simply IMPOSE what he wants because he can and everyone simply has to live with it, whether it makes sense or not. It’s what you call “one size fits all” decision making. Whatever he says, goes for everyone no matter where you are. Could some things be done like that everywhere? Sure but it does not mean it makes sense. Let me give you a couple of specific examples:

  1. Holding a SIMULTANEOUS WORLD-WIDE EVANGELICAL MISSION. Could it be done? Sure! But that would mean it would be held at 7:00 AM in one venue and 11:00 PM in another venue. Does it make sense to invite guests at 7:00 AM and some at 11:00 PM? NO. Could it be done? Yes. But is it effective? NO.
  2. Let’s try another one. The WORLD-WIDE WALK. Was it done? Of course! There were people who walked in the rain and some had to walk in the snow. It even looked great in pictures! But did it really make sense? Not really. If you think about it, what was the point of The Walk? Fund raising? That could have been done by simple monetary contributions. Then what? FOR SHOW. Nothing more.

The point is, decisions of a GREAT leader takes into consideration the welfare of the people. There will be people who will follow and some will not even complain but if a leader is WISE, he would think about how it would affect those involved. It is not merely insisting to get it done, especially when there really is no true benefit to it. The examples I mentioned above were done. The Church members but those are merely for show and to be able to say “Ooh! We are ONE!” But the reality is, there really is nothing gained, except for announcements of accomplishments and for photo ops.

 

I know this is odd to use but I am going to quote the comedian Chris Rock when he said, “Sure you can drive with your feet if you wanted to, but it don’t make it a good idea!” Ok, let’s be more scriptural. “Some of you say, “We can do anything we want to.” But I tell you that not everything is good for us.” 1 Corinthians 6:12. Get the idea?

 

Let me take one more example: Vow Prayers. We keep getting told about joining a vow prayer for this and vow prayer for that. Are vow prayers bad? No but the leaders need to also be considerate of the members. They cannot just keep imposing schedule after schedule without thinking about the life and schedules of the people.

 

Wait a minute. You might say, isn’t it that we should sacrifice our time and effort for these things? Sure, but the vow prayers before were for a specific purpose and a specific time frame. Nowadays, vow prayers are endless and for any and all reasons. Special Offering weekend… setting aside weekend.. Evangelical Mission weekend… Pastoral Visit… Donation weekend… it is non stop! What is wrong with that? If the brethren and especially officers are always being required to attend this vow and that vow, what happens? They end up getting weary of them and eventually missing them. Am I speaking against God’s commands? On the contrary, the Bible says:

“It is better not to make a vow than to make one and not fulfill it.” Ecclesiastes 5:5

 

Why set these endless vow prayers which the people will end up breaking because they have no end? I hope I am making point across because I am sure that someone will read this and say AHA! You are against prayers! You are against Missionary Work! Wrong. My point is, that our previous Administrator, Brother Eraño, was always considerate and tried to make things easy, not hard. He knew that life was already hard enough as it is. He did not have to add anymore burdens than what we already have. Jesus and the Apostles had that same spirit. Here is a specific example:

 

When the debate whether the Gentiles should abide by the Jewish tradition of circumcision, the 1st century Administrator considered not only the culture of the Gentiles but also the difficulty of imposing it upon them. What did the leader decide?

 

“It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. Acts 15:19-20

Did Jesus simply say, ok, obey whatever I tell you and deal with it even when it’s too much for you? He also was considerate: “Come to me, all of you who are tired from carrying heavy loads, and I will give you rest. ” Matthew 11:28

 

Many of us have burdens. We have pressures at work. We have troubles at home. Scraping up every cent is tough for many. LIFE IS HARD. Obeying God’s commands are already tough to apply in life. Brother Eraño knew all that. He empathised with us. He knew sacrifices were made by brethren. There was no need to add to them. He was truly guided by God. How could we ever forget someone like that?

 

 

In this new year, let’s all pray for the Church of Christ. Pray that we may have a wise, true leader who will care for us.

 

“Wisdom will control your mind,
    and you will be pleased
    with knowledge.
 Sound judgment and good sense
    will watch over you.
Wisdom will protect you
    from evil schemes
and from those liars
who turned from doing good
    to live in the darkness.
Most of all they enjoy
    being mean and deceitful.
They are dishonest themselves,
    and all they do is crooked.”
Proverbs 2:10-15

 

 

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99 thoughts on “A True Leader

  1. GREAT LEADER VS EVIL LEADER. From A to Z, Ka Erdy is far different from the current church leader. If Trump is the most hated US President, EVM is the most hated Executive Minister by right thinking brethren. If Trump has his own fanatic followers, EVM has his own.

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  2. Walang IBUBUNGANG Kabanalan sa Kaninomang MIEMBRO ng Iglesia kung Lahat ng Gagawin o ginagawa ay PILITAN o NAPILITAN o SAPILITAN 0 “natatakot” sa mga LIDER lalo na sa TP kuno?Sabi nga nga mga matatandang Ministro nung araw–TUTUPAD ka UDYOK ng pag-ibig,pananampalataya,banal na Takot.MASAYA ka,walng pumilit o nanakot sa IYO,Tutupad ka dahil sa mga ITO,hind dahil takot ka sa Tao pero sa DIOS hindi!! Period!!! kaya KABALBALAN ang mga pagtupad ngayon na konying kibot Panata na naging RITUWAL na,Wala nasa PUSO at di na udyok ng pag-ibig at pananampalataya.You are absolutely right Bro.EDGE–Huwag ka ng Magpapanata(mangako) kundi mo rin lang MATUTUPAD na udyok ng pag-ibig at banal na takot at pananampalataya sa DIOS.!!! na nasa Aklat ng Ecclesiastes na sinitas ni ka Edge!!!

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  3. Mula sa Aming Puso at Damdamin,BUMABATI KAMING MGA NASA PANIG NG DIOS,CRISTO,E.SANTO AT KATOTOHANAN NG ‘ MALIGAYANG PAGBATI SA KAARAWAN NG KAPANGANAKAN NG MAHAL NATING KAPATID NA ERANO G. MANALO AT MANANATILI KA SA AMING MGA PUSO AT KALULUWA HABANG KAMI’Y NABUBUHAY o hanggang sa ARAW ng PAGHUHUKOM!!!! kaming mga tunay na defender ng KATOTOHANAN sa panig ng Dios,cristo,E.Santo at Katotohanan!!!!

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  4. Similarities between Agent Orange and EVM:

    1. The United States is divided
    2. The INC body is divided: OWEs, Silent Defenders, Samson’s “Restore the Church” and Dizon’s “Small Remnants”. Church members are also politically divided (would venture to say a large percentage of OWEs are Trump supporters and it appears a number of defenders tend to be at least slightly liberal).
    3. Deaths of children at the border.
    4. Deaths of those supporting Angel

    The question is not IF Trump or EVM will be taken down, it is WHEN.

    Did any OWEs think the Seattle arson attack and recent electrocution deaths of the minister and deacon are signs? There are a couple other incidents in SoCal ……

    Or why are INC ministers (such as Ramil Parba) getting their asses kicked in debates lately?

    Ka Erdy wouldn’t have permitted the use of a Masonic lodge or a chapel from another religion. A couple more are in close proximity of a bar.

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  5. It’s NOT Suprising ANYMORE all EVM’s Minister whether “old or especially new ones”,will NEVER WIN in any DEBATES because GOD and the HOLY SPIRIT were No Longer wwith THEM.This is the Truth,accept it or not. I have been in the church 1/2 century,since EVM became their fake TP—they never WON a single Debate!!!! But in th fb,socail media they were Bragging they won every debate specially against Mr.White–LIARS,LIARS!!!!

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    1. “A TRUE LEADERS HAS THE
      CONFIDENCE TO STAND
      ALONE, THE COURAGE TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS, AND
      THE COMPASSION TO LISTEN
      TO THE NEEDS OF OTHERS. HE
      DOES NOT SET OUT TO BE A
      LEADER, BUT BECOMES ONE
      BY THE EQUALITY OF HIS
      ACTIONS AND THE INTEGRITY
      OF HIS INTENT.”

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    2. Another touching video which highlights EGM’s greatness as a true leader … kaya lang nasira nang sumingit si Bob Pelien. Anyway, many thanks for adding this to our tribute to EGM. God bless!

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      1. That’s what Bob Pelien forgot “a true leadership is to follow God standard & not man”. He just need to see this video again to reflect what kind of minister he became after tatay Erdy passed away.

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  6. In the worship service I attended last night, Jan. 2, the minister cursorily announced that the lesson to be preached was outlined by EGM and that they would be using such lessons for the entire January to commemorate his birthday. Then he added that they would be using a modern version of the Bible, Holman Christian Standard Bible, as reference. After the benediction, the minister then read just one circular about the official twitter, instagram and facebook accounts of the Christian Society for the Deaf. No mention at all about EGM’s legacy, not even in passing when he prayed. That’s how this administration remembered Ka Erdy on the exact date of his birthday. HOW SAD! It is therefore up to us the true beneficiaries of EGM’s ministry who should keep his memory alive through various means especially during these trying times. One way is to keep track of and extend assistance to EGM’s loved ones who were expelled from the INC. Perhaps, popular blog sites such as this can spearhead and support a “low key” movement to help take care of EGM’s family while being respectful of their privacy and dignity. I believe this is one worthy cause where we can directly put to good use our “pledged” offerings to God rather than have them diverted to the maintenance of spurious projects such as the Philippine Arena (including its loan repayments).

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  7. Huwag na tayo pang UMASA na aalalahanin ng “Iglesia Nila” si ka Erdy.Di ba balitang-balita noong nabubuhay pa ang ka Erdy ,sa Galit at Poot ni JEZEBEL,sinabi na nito kay Eduag at mga anak na BUBURAHIN NIYA lahat ng alaala ng ka EGM at Pamilya nito? Kunwari lang (pakitang tao) yung Leksyon ng ka EGM for one month at IIBAHIN nila sa paggamit ng Makabagong Salin ng Biblia para MAIBA ang kahulugan ng TUNAY na DIWA ng Leksyon at PASUNURIN sa GUSTO NILA.!! Ka Tacio papaano natin Matutulungan sina ka ANGEL? Sinong kapatid sa Pinas ang makalalapit kina ka Angel sa Jail na bantay ay mga Pulis na Panatiko ni EVM? Sina ka Tenny at ka Marco puede pa dahil nandito sila sa Tate.Pero yung mga nasa PINAS,kanino tayo Lalapit at mapagkakatiwalaan nating mga Defender na Tutulong kina ka Angel at sa iba pang Inuusisg at tinatakot ng mga Buhong na iyan!! Alam kong “marami sa atin” ang nais na tumulong,ngunit papaano? Kaya lagi kong sinasabi–Ang Ating AMANG DIOS lamang ang KIKILOS upang magkaroon ng HUSTISYA ang Ginawa ng IGLESIA NILA sa pamilya ng ka EGM!! Malapit na,malapit na at Ibubuhos ng Dios ang Lupit na Parusa sa mga imbing Taong IYAN!!!

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  8. That’s what Bob Pelien forgot “a true leadership is to follow God standard & not man”. He just need to see this video again to reflect what kind of minister he became after tatay Erdy passed away.

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  9. just recently, our resident minister prayed in our ws “salamat po at naniwala kami sa aming TP” ….this is again opposed to what ka FYM keeps i preaching us na “huwag kayo maniwala si sinasabi ni Manalo kubdi sa biblia lang”

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  10. from blog of leonil alvia
    April 17, 2017

    ANG ISA PANG IBINABALA NI KAPATID NA ERAÑO G. MANALO

    MAYROONG PALALONG AYAW KUMILALA AT LUMABAN PA SA PAMAMAHALA SAPAGKAT NAIS NIYANG IPAGGITGITAN ANG KANIYANG SARILI BILANG LIDER O NAIS NIYANG MAMAHALA RIN AYON SA ISANG LEKTURA NI KAPATID NA
    ERAÑO G. MANALO

    TUNAY na ang Pamamahala na inilagay ng Diyos sa Iglesia ay puspos ng Espiritu Santo at may gabay ng Panginoong Diyos. Nang nabubuhay pa ang Kapatid na Eraño G. Manalo ay ibinabala na niya na maaaring magkaroon ng krisis sa liderato ng Iglesia dahil sa pagbangon ng mga “palalo” na ayaw kumilala sa Pamamahala ng Iglesia at kakalaban pa sapagkat ang nais nila ay ipaggitgitan ang kanilang sarili na maging lider o sila ang mamahala sa Iglesia. Ganito ang naging pahayag ng Kapatid na Eraño G. Manalo sa kaniyang naging lektura noong Oktubre 14, 1998:

    Gaano kasama ang hindi pagpapasakop sa Pamamahala? Mayroon bang taong binabanggit sa Biblia na bagaman kinakatulong noon ng mga apostol, gayunman ay nagtaglay ng ibang isipan o ibang diwa kaysa sa pinag-uusapan natin dito? Huwag sanang matagpuan sa kaninumang ministro, maytungkulin, o kapatid ang katulad ng binabanggit sa III Juan 1:9-10, 11 TLB:

    “Nagpadala ako ng maikling sulat sa iglesia tungkol dito, ngunit ang palalong si Diotrefes na gustung-gustong ipaggitgitan ang kaniyang sarili bilang lider ng mga Cristiano roon ay hindi kinikilala ang aking kapamahalaan sa kaniya at tumatangging makinig sa akin.” (talatang 9)

    Sa panahon ng mga apostol ay mayroon ding ayaw kumilala sa Pamamahala, si Diotrefes. Sapagkat ang gusto niya’y mamahala rin siya. Kung may patakaran daw si Apostol Juan, mayroon din siya. Kaya, gustung-gusto niyang ipaggitgitan ang kaniyang sarili bilang lider. Ang sabi ni Apostol Juan:

    “Kapag ako’y dumating, sasabihin ko sa inyo ang ilan sa mga bagay na kaniyang ginagawa at ang mga masasamang sinasabi niya tungkol sa akin at ang mga salitang mapanlait na kaniyang ginagamit. Hindi lamang siya tumatangging malugod na tanggapin ang mga manlalakbay-misyonaryo, kundi sinasabi rin sa iba na huwag silang tanggapin. At kapag tinanggap nila, sinisikap niyang itiwalag sila sa iglesia.” (talatang 10)

    Si Diotrefes ay naninira at nagsasalita ng laban sa pamamahala. Hinahadlangan at sinasansala niya ang mga utos na galing kay Apostol Juan. Ayaw niyang kilalanin ang mga ipinadadala ni Apostol Juan na mga taong kailangang gamitin sa Iglesia.
    Awa ng Diyos ay wala pang ganiyan sa Iglesia ni Cristo ngayon. Ngunit sinasabi natin ngayon pa na kung magkakaroon ay si Diotrefes ang katulad niya. Ganito pa ang sabi ni Apostol Juan:

    “Minamahal na kaibigan, huwag mong hayaang makaimpluwensiya sa iyo ang masamang halimbawang ito. Sundin mo kung alin lamang ang mabuti. Tandaan mo, na napatutunayan ng mga gumagawa ng matuwid na sila’y mga anak ng Diyos at napatutunayan ng mga nagpapatuloy sa kasamaan na sila’y malayo sa Diyos.” (talatang 11)

    Ang sumusunod ay hindi nagiging alipin ng taong namamahala. Ayon kay Apostol Juan, kapag ikaw ay sumunod, napatutunayan mong ikaw ay anak ng Diyos; kapag hindi ka sumunod at nagpatuloy ka sa masamang espiritung iyan, napatutunayan mo namang ikaw ay malayo sa Diyos. Hindi ko sinasabi ito upang itanghal at itaas sa inyo ang Pamamahala kundi, gaya ng sinabi ko kanina, ang pinakamalubhang krisis sa mundo ngayon ay ang krisis sa liderato, at ito’y huwag nating payagang mangyari sa Iglesia. Sundin natin ang mga patakarang inilagda ng Diyos.

    Ayon sa pagtuturo ni Kapatid na Eraño G. Manalo, si Diotrefes ay ayaw kumilala sa Pamamahala ng Iglesia at kinalaban pa. Kaya, hindi maaaring baliktarin ito ng mga kumakalaban ngayon sa Pamamahala na sabihin na ang “Diotrefes ngayon ay ang kasalukuyang Pamamahala” sapagkat ang “Diotrefes” na ito ay ayaw kumilala at lumalaban sa nakatatag (established) na Pamamahala sa Iglesia. Siya, na hindi naman namamahala sa Iglesia ay nais na ipaggitgitan ang kaniyang sarili na maging lider ng mga Cristiano o siya ang mamahala sa Iglesia.

    Kaya, ang sinuman ngayon na ayaw kumilala at kumakalaban sa Pamamahala ng Iglesia, at nais pang ipaggitgitan ang kanilang sarili na sila ang mamahala sa Iglesia ang nakakatulad ni “Diotrefes” na ayon kay Apostol Juan ay isang “palalo.” Ang sabi nga ni Kapatid na Eraño G. Manalo noong nabubuhay pa ay: “Sa awa ng Diyos ay wala pang ganiyang sa Iglesia ni Cristo ngayon. Ngunit sinasabi natin ngayon pa na KUNG MAGKAKAROON AY SI DIOTREFES ANG KATULAD NIYA.”

    SAMAKATUWID, NOONG NABUBUHAY PA ANG KAPATID NA ERAÑO G. MANALO AY IBINABALA NA NIYA NA MAAARING MAGKAROON NG KATULAD NI DIOTREFES.

    Anu-ano ang kasamaan na ginawa ng Diotrefes na ito:

    (1) Ipinaggigitgitan ang sarili na bilang lider ng mga Cristiano o nais na siya ang mamahala sa Iglesia;
    (2) Hindi kinikilala ang Pamamahala ng Iglesia;
    (3) Tumatangging makinig sa Pamamahala ng Iglesia;
    (4) Gumagawa at nagsasalita ng masama laban sa Pamamahala;
    (5) Nilalait pa ang Pamamahala ng Iglesia;
    (6) Hindi lamang ang Pamamahala ng Iglesia ang tinanggihang kilalanin, ginagawan at nagsasalita ng masama, kundi ang mga katulong ng Pamamahala sa Iglesia;
    (7) Tinuturuan ang mga kapatid na huwag tanggapin ang mga katulong ng Pamamahala sa Iglesia;
    (8) Hinihikayat ang mga kapatid na huwag tanggapin at lumaban sa Pamamahala kahit pa sila’y “matiwalag” sa Iglesia.

    KAYA, ang mga gumagawa nito ngayon ang katulad ni Diotrefes. Sa panahon natin ngayon, gaya din ng ibinabala ng Kapatid na Eraño G. Manalo, ang mga gumagawa nito at nakakatulad ni Diotrefes ay ang mga “TIWALAG” na katuparan ng ibinabala rin ni Apostol Juan na “MGA ANTICRISTO NA LILITAW BAGO ANG WAKAS”:

    “Mga anak, malapit na ang wakas! Tulad ng narinig ninyo, darating ang anti-Cristo. Ngayon nga’y marami nang lumitaw na mga anti-Cristo, kaya’t alam nating malapit na ang wakas. Bagamat sila’y dating kasamahan natin, hindi natin tunay na kaisa ang mga taong iyon. Sapagkat kung sila’y tunay na atin, nanatili sana silang kasama natin. Ngunit umalis sila, kaya’t maliwanag na silang lahat ay di tunay na atin.” (I Juan 2:18-19 MB)

    Tunay na ibinabala sa atin ng Banal Na Kasulatan na bago ang wakas ay lilitaw ang mga Anticristo na mga dati nating kasamahan sa Iglesia na magsisikap na mahikayat at maitalikod sa Iglesia ang mga hinirang. Kaya, lagi nating alalahanin ang paala-ala sa atin ni Kapatid na Eraño G. Manalo na:

    “Mag-ingat kayo mga kapatid, baka kayo ay madaya.”

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    1. I agree with the biblical verses cited by Leonil Alvia as an example of rebelling against the church administration. But this applies when the INC Executive Minister is true and legitimate like FYM and EGM. In EVM’s case, not only has he not dispelled the cloud of suspicion regarding his ascension to the position, he has also promulgated doctrines and procedures directly in conflict with those espoused by FYM and EGM. The most glaring is his obsession for adulation as God’s anointed leader to the point that he allows himself to be projected as “INFALLIBLE” especially through his “OBEY AND NEVER COMPLAIN/QUESTION” decree accompanied by “EXPRESS EXPULSION” of those who dare violate it. Come to think of it, just like what happens when EVM-era ministers preach lessons against those attacking EVM, the verses they use boomerang on EVM because it is he who deviated from the teachings and practices of his predecessors. As summarized by Bro. Rolando Dizon in one of his Worldwide Bible Study episodes (2018-08-08 https://youtu.be/MfOwXJQqJxU
      (44:08 mark), EVM’s administration exhibited 6 signs that it is not guided by the Holy Spirit based on the following verses:
      Gal 5:22-23 – no fruit of the spirit
      Romans 8:15 – reign of fear
      1 John 4:12-13 – promotion of hatred and not love
      Jude 1:19 – causing divisions
      John 16:13 – lies and deception
      Gal 6:7-8 – the harvest of death

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  11. I agree with you ka Tacio. Rebelling against the Administration is a SIN if the Administrator placed by GOD is Righteous n Faithful to GOD. But if the Administrator is SELFISH,ARROGANT and most of ALL was not TRUE Exec.Minister but FAKE– you/we can DISOBEY HIM,especially HIS Regulations and TEACHINGS are/were UNBIBLICAL.!!! The Truth,EVM was the ONE who REBELLED against ka ERDY,the TRUE and Legitimate TP. He listened to HIS Beloved WIFE Jezebel n his son in law to go against His FATHER!! He committed 2 Grievous SINS–Disobey His FATHER in the Flesh and 2nd–Disobey the TRUE CHURCH ADMINISTRATOR placed by GOD thru the LAYING HANDS of ka Felix Y. Manalo,like MOSES did to JOSHUA before he died.EVM knows from the very BEGINNING that his Wife and Jojo de Guzman,his son in law NOW,were PLANNING to go against Ka ERDY’S REGULATIONS in the Church and when ka Erdy found out about this, EVM was SUSPENDED,actually ka EGM wants HIM and his Family get expelled. Nognog was expelled but Jezebel hide him and take care of him. The whole Family of EVM made a SALAYSAY and ask FORGIVENESS to GOD and ka EGM.But as we know, THEY Secretly planned everything and when ka EGM passed away,WE all KNOW now the whole story!! Kaya ang TUNAY na INC ay NALIHIS sa malinis at marangal na kalagayan at naging EVM Church and Company. TAYONG mga tunay na NANINDIGAN at patuloy na NANININDIGAN sa panig ng DIOS,CRISTO at KATOTOHANAN ang mga TUNAY na INC.Sila taglay lang nila ang pangalang INC kaya lalo silang nakapandaraya sa mga TAO na maging KAANIB nila sa EVM church na nagtatago sa Pangalang Iglesia ni Cristo!! Mula ng LUMABAN at SUWAYIN nila ang PAMAMAHALANG LAGAY NG DIOS ng ka EGM—Hindi na sila mga TUNAY na INC!!! Iyan ang KATOTOHANAN,tanggapin man NILA o hindi–sila ang pinaka-MATINDING BULAANG PROPETA sa panahon natin hanggang sa Araw na ng Paghuhukom.!!!

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    1. You are not a true INC for posting that. You’re a fake member who’ll get revealed one day and you won’t receive salvation.

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  12. I really admire the people in this blog. truly we are all after the truth. On the other hand, try to introduce exerpts from ka Erdys lecture in the comment box of the true defender youtube and you will get nothing but yell and curse! The very opposite of what we are doing and happening in thos blog.

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  13. sa talatang 10 of 3John 1:9-11

    Kapag ako’y dumating, sasabihin ko sa inyo ang ilan sa mga bagay na kaniyang ginagawa at ang mga masasamang sinasabi niya tungkol sa akin at ang mga salitang mapanlait na kaniyang ginagamit. Hindi lamang siya tumatangging malugod na tanggapin ang mga manlalakbay-misyonaryo, kundi sinasabi rin sa iba na huwag silang tanggapin. At kapag tinanggap nila, sinisikap niyang itiwalag sila sa iglesia.” (talatang 10)

    hindi ba eto kawangis ng ciscular pag my tinitiwalag

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  14. pansinin ang paliwanag ni ka Erdy sa talatang 11. parang natanaw na nya na ang pinakamalubhang krisis sa Iglesia
    ay ang krisis sa liderato kaya inihabilin nya na huwag etong payagang mangyari. ang paraan para huwag etong mamgyari? Sundin ang mga patakarang inilagda ng Dios.

    tupad na tupad eto: my krisis sa liderato ng INC dahil hindi sinunod ang patakarang inilagda ng panginoong Dios.

    Tandaan natin na hindi nya sinabi na huwag payagang mangyari na may kumalaban sa Iglesia na dating mga kaanib? hindi rin nya ibinabala na huwag payagang mangyari na my lalait sa pamamahal.

    basahin ulit ang sabi ni ka Erdy patungkol sa 3John1:11

    “Ang sumusunod ay hindi nagiging alipin ng taong namamahala. Ayon kay Apostol Juan, kapag ikaw ay sumunod, napatutunayan mong ikaw ay anak ng Diyos; kapag hindi ka sumunod at nagpatuloy ka sa masamang espiritung iyan, napatutunayan mo namang ikaw ay malayo sa Diyos. Hindi ko sinasabi ito upang itanghal at itaas sa inyo ang Pamamahala kundi, gaya ng sinabi ko kanina, ang pinakamalubhang krisis sa mundo ngayon ay ang krisis sa liderato, at ito’y huwag nating payagang mangyari sa Iglesia. Sundin natin ang mga patakarang inilagda ng Diyos.

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  15. Tama ka,ka PDC,lahat ng “pahiwatig” (udyok ng E.Santo) ng ka EGM sa Mangyayaring hindi maganda sa Iglesia sa “hinaharap” (future) ay NATUPAD ngayon sa “katauhan ni EVM”. Ang totoo mga Bro. “kahit pa MISMO Halal o lagay ng Dios” ang isang Tao,BASTA ang Tao na ito ay LUMIHIS sa KATOTOHANAN at “sinunod ang SARILI niyang Kagustuhan”,tiyak Gugulo ang Pamamalakad at magiging masama sapagkat di naging TAPAT sa DIOS at KANYANG mga UTOS.!! Napakaraming naging HARI sa Israel na INIHALAL o NILAGAY ng Dios,subalit dahil HINDI naging TAPAT sa DIOS,sila ay naging kasangkapan upang mahati ang kaharian,magulo ang pamamahala,nagkaroon ng mga patayan o kamatayan ng mga tagasunod nila. Tulad nila SAUL,SOLOMON,ROBOAM,JEROBOAM at marami pang mga naging HARI(halal ng Dios) ngunit dahil naging MASUWAYIN sa Dios at nais na ang PANSARILI NILANG kagustuhan o Kapakanan ang GINAWA,sila ay mga HINDI naging Matuwid at Mabuting mga Tagapamahala o Lider o HARI nung panahon nila.!! Ganyan SILA EVM n SANGOONS,puro sa “kapakanan lamang NILA” (puro pagpapayaman at GUSTO at wala ng PAKIALAM sa kaluluwa ng mga kapatid) ang INIINTINDI.!! Kunwari lang yung “nagmamalasakit kuno sa kaligtasan ng mga kapatid” ngunit ang Gusto ay MAGATASAN ang mga ITO para MASUNOD lahat ng CAPRICHO NILA na mga matakaw at wala ng KABUSUGAN sa lahat ng Layaw nila at Pagpapayaman ng HUSTO.!! Hindi na SILA naniniwala na pag Namatay ka,wala kang dadalhing anoman sa libingan!! Hindi na rin sila naniniwala sa IMPIERNO sapagkat Patuloy SILA sa panloloko sa mga kapatid GAMIT ang BIBLIA.!! Di ba “napakasamang mga TAO nito”!! Iyan ang NAGING BUNGA ng PAGSUWAY at PAGLAPASTANGAN “nila” sa PAMAMAHALA ng ka EGM. Sila ang mga “unang Sumuway at HINDI NAPASAKOP sa TP” na ngayon ay ipinagduduldulan nila sa isipan ng mga kapatid na may Malay man o WALA.!!

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  16. An addendum to the litany of complaints against EVM as posted in Bro. Farley de Castro’s FB account:
    Remembering KA ERDY
    16 August 2015
    MAGKANI-KANIYA SILA SAPAGKAT MAWAWALAN NG CONTROL … PAPALITAN NILA ANG MGA MATATANDA AT MGA MAY KARANASAN NG MGA BATANG MINISTRO …. BABAGUHIN NILA ANG MGA TUNTUNIN …. PIPILITIN NILANG ITALIKOD ANG IGLESIA … HUWAG KAYONG MAG-ALALA …. KAPAG HINDI NAAYOS NG KUYA NINYO ANG IGLESIA AY BABANGON AKO ! ”
    1. HUWAG PABAYAANG WASAK ANG MGA GUSALING SAMBAHAN.
    2. PAG-IBIG AT PAGGALANG SA MGA MAGULANG
    3. PAG-IIBIGANG MAGKAKAPATID
    4. HUWAG MAGNAKAW, HUWAG MANDAYA.
    5. HUWAG APIHIN ANG MGA BABAING BALO AT MGA ULILA
    6. IBIGAY ANG MAKATARUNGANG HATOL SA LAHAT.
    7. HUWAG TUMANGGAP NG SUHOL
    8. ANG MGA MINISTRO AY HINDI DAPAT MABUHAY SA LUHO AT KALAYAWAN.
    9. HUWAG MAG-MOLESTIYA SA MGA KAPATID
    10. ANG PAGHAHANDOG AY MULA SA PUSO AT AYON SA IKINABUBUHAY
    11. HUWAG IPAMIGAY SA MGA KAPATID ANG SOBRE.
    12. ANG IGLESIA AY ITINATAG PARA SA PAGLILINGKOD SA DIYOS AT HINDI SA NEGOSYO.
    13. ANG GAWAING PAGBUBUNGA AY PAGBABALIK-LOOB SA DIYOS AT HINDI DAHIL SA MAHALAY NA PAKINABANG.
    14. HUWAG GAMITIN ANG PULPITO SA PAG-ATAKE SA KAPATID.
    15. HUWAG ISAGAWA SA LOOB AT COMPOUND NG GUSALING SAMBAHAN ANG ANOMANG URI NG PAGNENEGOSYO.
    16. NAKASENTRO ANG MINISTRO SA GAWAING PANGANGALAGA SA MGA KAPATID AT SA IBA PANG GAWAIN NG IGLESIA.
    17. ANG KAPURIHAN NG IGLESIA AY HINDI SA MGA KAPURIHANG PANLUPA.
    18. KABABAANG-LOOB, MAGING ILAW NG SANLIBUTAN.
    19. ANG PAGLILINGKOD SA DIYOS AY BASBAS NA NAGDUDULOT NG LIGAYA SA PUSO AT HINDI SAPILITAN.
    20. PAGHARIIN ANG KAPAYAPAAN SA GITNA NG MAGKAKAPATID.
    BABANGON AKO!

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  17. correction:ang ibig kong sabihin na Pinagduduldulan nila na Pasakop ay kay EVM sa panahong ITO.PAulit-ulit na napakasama ang ayaw pasakop at lumalaban sa pamamahala ni EVM. papaanong magiging paglaban kung SINASABI lang natin ang katotohanan? At paanong masama na di pasakop kung PEKE naman siya .Ano ang Nalabag natin doon,wala naman di ba? Hindi ka nagpasakop dahil Peke,sinabi mo ang Totoo ano paglaban doon? hay nakuu!!!

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  18. Salamat ka Tacio sa panulat mong iyan na mula kay ka Farley.IYAN ang buong Katotohanan ng Marapat at Matuwid na Pangangasiwa sa kapatid o sa Iglesia. Malinis ang BUDHI,Malinis ang LAYUNIN,may PAGMAMAHAL,PAG-IBIG at PAGMAMALASAKIT sa KAWAN.Walang layuning maka-LAMAN o maka-LUPA/MUNDO. Ang iniisip ay ang TUNGKULIN ay BIGAY ng DIOS at ‘siya’ ay KAMANGGAGAWA o KATUWANG o KATULONG ng DIOS sa Pag-aalaga sa mga TUPA o taong Itiniwala ng Dios sa kanya(tunay na ministro o pamamahala)!! Kung magawa ang Lahat ng Tungkulin o Pananagutang ito Bilang MATUWID at TAPAT na Ministro ng Dios,ang sasabihin lamang NIYA ay ,ALIPIN akong Walang Kabuluhan,GINANAP ko lamang ang Pananagutang ibinigay sa AKIN ng DIOS!!!.Hindi dapat MAGBUHAT ng SARILING Bangko o UPUAN at di Pinupuri ng SARILI niyang Bibig ang mga nagawa Niyang kabutihan o kabanalan!! LAHAT ng KABANALANG GINAWA ng sinomang CRISTIANO—-IT’s BETWEEN “you/us” n GOD,Hindi dapat ipagsigawan sa buong Iglesia o sa buong Mundo!!

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  19. ang testo sa pagsamba (01062019) ay tungkol sa pagpapasakop sa pamamahala.gaano eto kahalaga. Sana may makakuha ng buong texto para masiyasat natin. maraming di katanggap tangap na pangungusap ang napulot ko dahil pinipilit nilang ilapat sa pamamahala dito sa lupa ang mga bagay na para sa panginoong Jesus.

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    1. Ever since I realized that EVM is not a true Executive Minister, I just attend the worship service following the advice I got from Elias Arkanghel’s blog site: Matthew 23:1-3 (HCSB) Religious Hypocrites Denounced 23 Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to His disciples: 2 “The scribes and the Pharisees are seated in the chair of Moses.[a] 3 Therefore do whatever they tell you, and observe it. But don’t do what they do,[b]because they don’t practice what they teach.” Therefore, I just go through the motions telling myself that EVM is just like an ordinary resident minister who will eventually be replaced and the locale (and by extension, the church) will continue to exist through God’s grace and mercy. However, with PDC’s request, I jotted down the verses cited during last Sunday’s worship service and as I have always expected, everything they said against EVM’s detractors boomeranged on EVM. I felt almost like throwing up because, not only were the twists and emphases they put on the EGM-outlined lesson an insult to my intelligence, they even appeared to move back the pages of time as if friars during the Spanish regime scaring people to death if they dared refer to the Bible and question their teachings. I had notes for each of the verses they cited but clearly, I can sum it all by saying that they merely engaged in the logical fallacy of “circular reasoning” which is attempting to make an argument by beginning with an assumption that what one is trying to prove is already true. (Examples of the minister’s declarations: “We are sure that EVM is with God because he is guided by the Holy Spirit…. EVM is real and therefore his teachings are of God.”) These EVM ministers are so “brainwashed” that they missed the entire point we are establishing – that EVM is not a true Executive Minister . And unlike FYM and EGM who will patiently and humbly answer any concern about their legitimacy just like what is normally done when missionizing and convincing people, EVM and cohorts assume that EVM is a true and legitimate Executive Minister and use that assumption to prove the very same thing they first have to establish before they can argue against the detractors supposedly rebelling against the church administration. SO PATHETIC!
      Here are the worship service verses used (with my summarizing comments):
      ** Unlike other organizations, in the INC the Administration (including ministers) is placed by God to make His message known.
      1. Col. 1:25 25 I have become its servant, according to God’s administration that was given to me for you, to make God’s message fully known,
      2. II Cor.5:18-20 18 Everything is from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19 That is, in Christ, God was reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed the message of reconciliation to us. 20 Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, certain that God is appealing through us. We plead on Christ’s behalf, “Be reconciled to God.”
      3. Col. 1:21 21 Once you were alienated and hostile in your minds because of your evil actions.
      4. Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have built barriers
      between you and your God,
      and your sins have made Him hide His face from you
      so that He does not listen.
      5. Rom.6:23 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
      6. Rev. 20:14 14 Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.
      7. John 14:6 6 Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
      ** INC Ministers especially EVM are sent by Christ and must be received.
      8. John 13:20 20 I assure you: Whoever receives anyone I send receives Me, and the one who receives Me receives Him who sent Me.”
      9. Luke 10:16 16 Whoever listens to you listens to Me. Whoever rejects you rejects Me. And whoever rejects Me rejects the One who sent Me.”
      ** Proof that messengers are needed.
      10. Acts 10:1-5 Cornelius’s Vision There was a man in Caesarea named Cornelius, a centurion of what was called the Italian Regiment.2 He was a devout man and feared God along with his whole household. He did many charitable deeds for the Jewish people and always prayed to God. 3 About three in the afternoon[a] he distinctly saw in a vision an angel of God who came in and said to him, “Cornelius!”
      4 Looking intently at him, he became afraid and said, “What is it, lord?”
      The angel told him, “Your prayers and your acts of charity have come up as a memorial offering before God. 5 Now send men to Joppa and call for Simon, who is also named Peter.
      11. Acts 10:33 33 Therefore I immediately sent for you, and you did the right thing in coming. So we are all present before God, to hear everything you have been commanded by the Lord.”
      ** Holy Spirit is proof that their preachings is accepted by God.
      12. Acts 10:44 44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came down on all those who heard the message.
      ** Aside from making God’s words known, another authority of the Administration is to render decisions.
      13. Act3 15:13,19 13 After they stopped speaking, James responded: “Brothers, listen to me! … 19 Therefore, in my judgment, we should not cause difficulties for those among the Gentiles who turn to God,
      14. Acts 15:1-2 Dispute in Antioch Some men came down from Judea and began to teach the brothers: “Unless you are circumcised according to the custom prescribed by Moses, you cannot be saved!” 2 But after Paul and Barnabas had engaged them in serious argument and debate, the church arranged for Paul and Barnabas and some others of them to go up to the apostles and elders in Jerusalem concerning this controversy.
      15. Acts 15:5-7 5 But some of the believers from the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “It is necessary to circumcise them and to command them to keep the law of Moses! The Jerusalem Council 6 Then the apostles and the elders assembled to consider this matter. 7 After there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them: “Brothers, you are aware that in the early days God made a choice among you,[a] that by my mouth the Gentiles would hear the gospel message and believe.
      16. Acts 15:13 13 After they stopped speaking, James responded: “Brothers, listen to me!
      17. Acts 16:4 4 As they traveled through the towns, they delivered the decisions reached by the apostles and elders at Jerusalem for them to observe.
      ** Guided by the Holy Spirit
      18. Acts 15:28 28 For it was the Holy Spirit’s decision—and ours—to put no greater burden on you than these necessary things:
      19. Numbers 16:11 11 Therefore, it is you and all your followers who have conspired against the LORD! As for Aaron, who is he[a] that you should complain about him?”
      20. Numbers 16:1-3 Korah Incites Rebellion Now Korah son of Izhar, son of Kohath, son of Levi, with Dathan and Abiram, sons of Eliab, and On son of Peleth, sons of Reuben, took 2 250 prominent Israelite men who were leaders of the community and representatives in the assembly, and they rebelled against Moses. 3 They came together against Moses and Aaron and told them, “You have gone too far![a] Everyone in the entire community is holy, and the LORD is among them. Why then do you exalt yourselves above the LORD’s assembly?”
      ** It’s a grievous sin to rebel against the administration because of terrible punishment.
      21. Numbers 16:20,21 20 The LORD spoke to Moses and Aaron, 21 “Separate yourselves from this community so I may consume them instantly.
      22. Numbers 16:31-33 31 Just as he finished speaking all these words, the ground beneath them split open. 32 The earth opened its mouth and swallowed them and their households, all Korah’s people, and all their possessions. 33 They went down alive into Sheol with all that belonged to them. The earth closed over them, and they vanished from the assembly.
      23. Hebrews 10:28-29 28 If anyone disregards Moses’ law, he dies without mercy, based on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much worse punishment do you think one will deserve who has trampled on the Son of God, regarded as profane[a] the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and insulted the Spirit of grace?
      24. Luke 10:16 6 Whoever listens to you listens to Me. Whoever rejects you rejects Me.And whoever rejects Me rejects the One who sent Me.”

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  20. Sayang di ako sumamba kanina,iyon pala ang texto.kung naksamba ako kahit Papaano NAISULAT ko ang mga mahahalagang o hindi mahahalagang paliwanang ng nagtuturo.sana nga ka PDC may makapag-kuento man lang ng buod ng txto o kaya gaya ng sabi mo kung may makakauha ng buong txto.Sayang,na-miss ko yang ukol sa PASAKOP na isinasaksak NILANG Pilit sa ISIPAN ng mga Kapatid.

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  21. Hindi ko matandaan kung sa fb ng” Hinaing ng mga Kapatid” o” incdefender” na yung palang Kapilya sa EWA,Hawaii ay HINDI pa nagagamit dahil WALA pang PERMIT!! OMG di ba pinagyabang NILA ito noong 50th anniv.dito sa West? Inihandog na (ewan paano nakalusot noon na may Temporary Permit) ng APURAHAN ,heto ngayon HINDI magamit.Ang sabi pa nga ng sumulat yung nakadestino dun ay nakipagpalitan o pinalitan ng 01 sa Australia na si R.Adalla na ito ang ng sa EWA,Hawaii ngayon.Nagyabang daw ito na magkakaroroon ng “malaking Pamamahayag” ngunit PUMALPAK dahil di nagamit ang kapilya.Sumunod may IKAKASAL na kapatid,di rin Naikasal dahil WALA ngang permit hanggang ngayon ang kapilya.Pagka MALI talaga ang ginawa,iyan ang RESULTA,palpak!! Bakit hindi nila yan binabalita sa BALIK TANAW 2018 ng IGLESIA NILA, na kailan lang ay IPINAGYABANG na naman NILA? he he he–pag palpak mga tahimik,pero pag “tagumpay daw” parang SIRENA ng ambulancia na napakaingay!!! Ang YAYABANG magsabi na kaya SILA nagtatagumpay dahil kasama NILA ang Dios!! Baka ito ang nagbigay sa INYO ng mga TAGUMPAY nyo na maka-lupa,dito sa Mateo 4:8-9,ang Diablo kc SIYA na ang SINUNOD ninyo.Di ba HINDI kayo sumunod sa PINATUNGAN ng KAMAY ng SUGO na TUNAY nasa DIOS,walang IBA kundi ang kapatid na ERANO G. MANALO? Kung sinuway NINYO ang TUNAY na HALAL ng DIOS,kanino KAYO ngayon?!! Di ba 2 “lamang ang LAHI ng TAO” ayon sa pagtuturo ng Sugo at ka ERDY at maging kayo inilathala NINYO ito sa God’s Message ninyo February 2017 page 32 na “Ang Lahi ng Dios at ang Lahi ng Diablo”. So alam NINYO,kundi ka sa Dios,sa Diablo ka,at vice-versa!!! Nalimutan nyo na PUEDE rin KAYONG PAGTAGUMPAYIN ng DIABLO basta kasang-ayon NIYA(Diablo) “KAYO” he he he he… ang gawain nyo yan ang gusto ng Diablo–malupit,nang-uusig,pumapatay,Nandadaya ng Kaluluwa at mga nagsisinuganling at HIGIT sa lahat TAKOT o DUWAG Manindigan sa KATOTOHANAN na mga Salita ng Dios!! Kaya sigurado ba KAYO na ang mga TAGUMPAY Ninyo ay dahil sa Dios? O sa Kalaban ng Dios? he he he he…

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    1. Sa local namin (at sa ibang lokal narin) palpak talaga ang mga gawain na. Lalo nasa mga ginawang mga panunumpa ng mga Tambalan sa Pagpapasigla, halos walang umatend. Its about pagpapasigla yun ha…tapos sasabihin sa mga pagsamba na napakaraming nanumpa sa ataw na yun. EVERYTIME a mimister claim that succesful yung mga gawain ay nagkakasala sya kasi yun ay kasinungalingan.!

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      1. Hindi kasi nila isinasaalang-alang ang kalagayan ng mga kapatid na naghahanapbuhay kakaumpisa lang ng taon at karamihan ay kababalik lang sa trabaho. Hindi na tulad ng dati ang Maynila o EDSA man na sa sandaling pagtakbo ng sasakyan ay makakarating ka na sa paroroonan. At hindi na din tulad ng dati ang pagtatrabaho karamihan sa atin ay kumplikado ang ginagampanan. Kung may kailangan mang bumaka nyan ng higit ay silang mga ministrong di kotsepa nga. Hindi maghihintay na lang sila kung kailan babagsak ang biyaya. Maghuhukom na ang sabi nila hindi na daw panahon ng pag aantok at pagtulog eh sila itong natutulog. Di ba pagsinabing maghuhukom na makikita mo silang lahat na ministro, tagapangasiwa man maging ang pinakamamahal nilang TP sa lansangan para mangaral at ibalita ang kaligtasan. Eh nasan sila??? Nasa naglalamigang opisina, sasakyan, hotel at ibang bansa yun ba ang maghuhukom na?

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  22. Ka Mario kung 50yrs na ko di sumasamba,baka ni isang talata sa biblia bukod sa Roma16;16 lang alam ko ha ha ha… Tama si ka TACIO,yung mga talata na binasa NILA sa KANILA Aplikable!! Palibhasa WALA ng patnubay ng E.Santo—HINDI na NILA alam na SILA ang TUWIRANG Lumaban sa ka EGM na Tunay na TP. TAYO? Pinagbibintangang LUMALABAN sa Pekeng TP? Paglaban ba ang TANONG na SINUWAY ba ni EVM si ka EGM o Hindi, nang sabihin sa KANYA na BUWAGIN ang STF at HUWAG maging BAHAGI ng MANALO’s FAMILY si NOGNOG de GUZMAN? Sagoot mga BU…!! Nang sabihin ba ni EVM na ang PAGSUSUGO ng Dios ay INCIDENTAL,may batayan ba SIYA sa Biblia? Saang aklat,anong Kapitulo at Bersikulo? Nang ITURO ninyong mga OWE/STF na “Pastor ng Kawan o IGLESIA si Edong” NAGKAMALI ba kayo o HINDI? Bakit ganyan ang tanong ko–sapagkat may HAWAK akong LEKSYON ng SUGO mismo ,na ang ITINURO niyang PASTOR ng KAWAN sa Juan 10:16 ay WALANG IBA kundi ang CRISTO “lamang”.Kalaban kayo ng SUGO,kaya kayo ang lumalaban sa Aral/Turo ng SUGO na tunay na Sugo at TP ng INC at INIHALILI ang ka EGM sa PAMAMAGITAN ng MALINIS na HALALAN at PINATUNGAN ng KAMAY na Siyang KATUNAYAN na ang ka EGM ay may BASBAS at PATNTBAY ng DIOS.!!! Di tulad ni EVM “napakaraming Katanungan ang pagiging TP na ALAM na ALAM ninyo lalo na si Jezebel at Jun $ANTO$ at mga Sangoons,ikinakaila nyo pa–kaya Puro kayo SINUNGALING at DUWAG sa KATOTOHANAN na mga IBUBULID sa DDA na sabi ko nga, SANA kumukulong PILAK at GINTO na mahal na mahal NINYO mga BU…!!! ng dumikit sa mga balat ninyo ang Ginto at Pilak!!! TAMANG huag LUMABAN sa mga APOSTOL sapagkat SILA ay Matuwid,Tapat,Malinis at may BANAL na TAKOT sa DIOS.Kaya iyong mga Talatang IYON para sa mga Apostol,HINDI kay EVM na Peke!! Bakit ka susunod,PEKE na MALABAGIN pa sa BIBLIA.APPOROVED NIYA ang mga Pagpilipit sa talata,ang Magbawas at Magdagdag at BIGYAN ng mga SARILING Pagpapaliwanag ng mga MINISTRO Niyang BULAG at PANATIKO!!! Si EVM lang may sinabi sa web-ek na : Ang TUNAY na NAGTITIWALA sa Dios ay Yung NAGHAHANDOG—sige saang talata yan mababasa na ang tunay na NAGTITIWALA sa Dios ay IYONG NAGHAHANDOG( ng PERA o Offerings)? Unless may BAGO na naman kayong Biblia na gagamitin na SUSUNOD sa GUSTO NINYO mga Bu…!!!! Ibig sabihin ni evm pag di ka Nag-abuloy o Naghandog–HINDI ka Nagtitiwala sa Dios!! Para talagang FRAYLE–yung mga katoliko noon na sunod lang ng sunod,kahit nagkasala pag may Suhol (aklat ni Rizal sa Dalagang taga-Malolos) Napapatawad ka sa kasalanan!! Saan at KAILAN nagpahalik ng KAMAY ang CRISTO at mga APOSTOL? Ang SUGO at ka EGM,kailan NAGPAHALIK sa KAMAY? PAglaban ba iyang mga tanong ko o HINDI lang NINYO masagot ng BOONG Katotohanan,kaya IKAKALAT ninyo sa PAGSAMBA,”lumalaban iyang kapatid na IYAN,ITIWALAG iyan at PAMILYA” mga buang!!! Pati Walang KASALANAN,ITITIWALAG ninyo,mabuti pa ang Gob.,pag Tatay lang ang nagkasala,iyon lang ang IKUKULONG–HINDI buong Pamilya na WALANG KASALANAN. Kaya MALUPIT pa kayo sa DIOS!! KAsing UGALI ninyo talaga ang Diablo–malupit!!!! Alam na alam ninyo ang nasa BIBLIA o NAGDILIM na KAYO—ang Kasalanan ng AMA ay HINDI kasalanan ng ANAK and vice-versa.Kung SINO ang Nagkasala ay SIYANG Mamamatay o MANANAGOT!! Hindi nyo na lam ito ano? Kasi nga MADILIM na KAYO mga bu….!!! HINDI ang BUONG PAMILYA ang Parurusahan,NAIINTINDIHAN NYO BA???? mga tunay DAW na Cristiano–bahala kayo sa buhay nyo!!!

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  23. THANK GOD that the TRUE INC MEMBERS have not forgotten the PROPER WAY OF REMEMBERING EGM, as exemplified by Bro. Rolando Dizon’s special episode of the Small Remnant’s Worldwide Bible Study. 2019-01-02 https://youtu.be/NpCkRzTCK78. Hebrews 13:7 (Good News Translation or Today’s English Version). “Remember your former leaders, who spoke God’s message to you. Think back on how they lived and died, and imitate their faith.”
    Hebrews 13:7 New Living Translation (NLT). “Remember your leaders who taught you the word of God. Think of all the good that has come from their lives, and follow the example of their faith.”
    2 Corinthians 10:3-5 Good News Translation (GNT). “It is true that we live in the world, but we do not fight from worldly motives. The weapons we use in our fight are not the world’s weapons but God’s powerful weapons, which we use to destroy strongholds. We destroy false arguments; we pull down every proud obstacle that is raised against the knowledge of God; we take every thought captive and make it obey Christ.”
    2 Corinthians 11:3 Good News Translation (GNT). “I am afraid that your minds will be corrupted and that you will abandon your full and pure devotion to Christ.—in the same way that Eve was deceived by the snake’s clever lies.”
    John 17:21-23 Good News Translation (GNT) “I pray that they may all be one. Father! May they be in us, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they be one, so that the world will believe that you sent me. I gave them the same glory you gave me, so that they may be one, just as you and I are one: I in them and you in me, so that they may be completely one, in order that the world may know that you sent me and that you love them as you love me.”
    James 3:17-18 Good News Translation (GNT) “But the wisdom from above is pure first of all; it is also peaceful, gentle, and friendly; it is full of compassion and produces a harvest of good deeds; it is free from prejudice and hypocrisy. And goodness is the harvest that is produced from the seeds the peacemakers plant in peace.”
    Isaiah 1:18 Good News Translation (GNT) “The Lord says, “Now, let’s settle the matter. You are stained red with sin, but I will wash you as clean as snow.[a] Although your stains are deep red, you will be as white as wool.[b]”
    Romans 8:33-35 Good News Translation (GNT). “Who will accuse God’s chosen people? God himself declares them not guilty! Who, then, will condemn them? Not Christ Jesus, who died, or rather, who was raised to life and is at the right side of God, pleading with him for us! Who, then, can separate us from the love of Christ? Can trouble do it, or hardship or persecution or hunger or poverty or danger or death?”
    Romans 8:38-39 New King James Version (NKJV) “For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, 39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
    2 Timothy 3:14 Living Bible (TLB) “But you must keep on believing the things you have been taught. You know they are true, for you know that you can trust those of us who have taught you.”
    2 Timothy 3:10 Living Bible (TLB) “But you know from watching me that I am not that kind of person. You know what I believe and the way I live and what I want. You know my faith in Christ and how I have suffered. You know my love for you, and my patience.”
    Philippians 2:12 Good News Translation (GNT) Shining as Lights in the World “So then, dear friends, as you always obeyed me when I was with you, it is even more important that you obey me now while I am away from you. Keep on working with fear and trembling to complete your salvation.”
    ** Notice the depth and spirituality of this lesson (trusting FYM & EGM who have taught us with love and patience)? … and contrast it with the OWE church’s self-serving use of EGM-outlined lessons ostensibly to commemorate his birth anniversary but in reality just another subtle way to continue exalting , not God and His words, but EVM and his tenuous and dubious hold of the church administrator position. It is SO SAD that, not only is EVM unable to lead congregational prayers, he also could not come up with a decent lesson of his own to commemorate his father’s birthday!

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  24. Ok ka talaga ka MAR!! Napapatawa mo kong husto!! Yes ka Tacio,I watched it too. Palpak lahat ng talatani B.Fernadez na ginamit against US (defenders)!! Isa pa si Miguel Sandoval na dating Defendr pero dahil sa SUHOL at Maranggyan Buhay at Posisyon INIWAN ang Dios at nakiisa kina EVM n Company!! Dti yan nung nasa Cavite pa,laban yan kina EVM,ng makausap ngmga magagaling na LIDER Bumaligtad BIGLA,dating sa Dios sumanib sa Diablo!! Haay Miguel na Babaero–tumigl-tigil ka nga!!!

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  25. Latest article from A.E. quoting from an article of Jeremy Luegi, editor of Asia by Africa (https://www.asiabyafrica.com/point-a-to-a/iglesia-ni-cristo-africa-megachurch-controversy).
    Posted comment from Edwin Embry 11 hours ago · 0 Likes
    “Do you have any direct evidence that the Iglesia Ni Cristo itself was implicated to criminal activities as you indicated? Do you have any evidence that the Iglesia Ni Cristo owns a private jet? Do you have any evidence that there were 10 ministers abducted by the church? Do you have any evidence that Menorca’s story about the grenade is true? Do you have any evidence that the council members of the church have lavish lifestyles?”
    ** Typical of EVM minions, they miss the bigger picture! The most important and basic observation is WHY HAS EVM’S ADMINISTRATION ALLOWED THE INC TO FALL INTO DISREPUTE IN HIS OBSESSIVE QUEST FOR HIS OWN EGO-SATISFYING SELF-PROCLAIMED LEGACY TO FULFILL THE FINAL STEP BEFORE THE COMING OF THE END, I.E. WORLDWIDE PREACHING OF GOD’S WORDS.
    Matthew 24:14  And this Good News about the Kingdom will be preached through all the world for a witness to all people; and then the end will come.
    Mark 13:10 But before the end comes, the gospel must be preached to all peoples
    ** Another solid proof that the Holy Spirit is not with him, and sadly, not with the INC anymore under his leadership.

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    1. The OWE apologists are no different from our corrupt officials and politicians. Despite all the strong evidence with photos and videos, they use the most abused reasons such as persecution, unfair attacks on the church and leadership, black propaganda, character assassination, etc.

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  26. Just saw an episode of Leah Remini’s expose on Scientology’s Ideal Orgs – fundraising schemes, building construction & renovation projects, “Suppressive persons” declarations, family & friends disconnection practices, intensive expansion, use of promotional videos, etc. Pattern so eerily similar to EVM-era INC? Perhaps, they have been using Scientology as model in “modernizing” the INC after labeling EGM as an “old fool.”. UNBELIEVABLE THAT PEOPLE CAN REALLY GET BRAINWASHED!
    https://tonyortega.org/2019/01/01/tonight-leah-remini-exposes-the-crazy-grift-of-scientologys-ideal-orgs/

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    1. Nagbago ka na ng style ngayon bro. Imbes na magpadala ng napakahabang mga talata mula sa biblia at mga komento mo ay nagbabasa ka na lang ng biblia ngayon. Iyon nga lang baka sa pagbalik mo na marami kang nalaman tungkol sa biblia eh mas mahaba pa kesa dati. 🙂

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  27. Babasahin ko talaga lahat ka Mario pero hindi dere-derecho.gaya kanina natapos ko Exodus at uumpisahan ko naman sa bagont tipan,marahil yung 4 n aklat Mat-Juan. Pag kinabisa ko lahat ng Verse baka abutan na ako ng Paghuhukom ha hah aaa….o mamatay na ako….

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  28. Palagay ko nga,comics binabasa ni edong.kc nagbibigay na ng maraming paliwanag,baka yung avengers ang paborito!!! palagay ko MAS paborito NIYA/Nilang basahin LAHAT ng bagong Saling Biblia na ang mga TALATANG hinahanap o pinipili nila ay PABOR sa gusto NILANG ipasunod sa lahat ng Miembro ng “Iglesia Nila”!! Hindi na SILA sumusunod sa Biblia,Biblia na ang Pinasusunod NILA he hehe heee…..

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  29. Ang PAHAYAG lagi ng evm church n company(Iglesia Nila),Lingap sa MAHIRAP sa Buong Mundo para LABANAN ang KAHIRAPAN-lalo na sa AFRICA!!! Ang PAHAYAG ng P.JesuCristo sa Mateo 24:7-8—Sapagka’t magsisitindig ang bansa laban sa bansa,at ang kaharian laban sa kaharian;at MAGKAKAGUTOM at lilindol sa iba’t-ibang DAKO, 8) Datapuwa’t ang LAHAT ng mga bagay na Ito ay pasimula ng KAHIRAPAN.!! “kanino kayo MANINIWALA mga OWE/STF,sa CRISTO o kina EVM”? Malinaw pa ba mga ISIP ninyo? Kung malinawSINO dapat NINYONG paniwalaan at Sampalatayanan? Kayo na sumagot!!!!

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  30. Ka Mario in 2024 the INC will be 110 yrs.When the First century INC reached 11o yrs–it totally Apostatized.That’s when St.Ignatius of Antioch INTRODUCED the word :katolika” in d church w/c means– GLOBAL CHURCH!! Sound familiar today–EVM Church called it now “THE GLOBAL CHURCH”!! Katolikong-katoliko talaga SILA he he he he–tapos “sila ang Ligtas”??? bahala SILA sa buhay NILA!! ha ha ha haaa…..

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  31. ** I just posted the following in Sher Lock’s blog site in response to a certain Mark Ferry John Lamsen‪ who was challenging the defenders to show the Bible verse that gives INC members the right TO QUESTION (not to advise) the Church Administration over administrative matters : ‬
    “First of all, I want to state that I have long stopped trying to convince brethren like you who treat the church administration as INFALLIBLE and therefore cannot be questioned. The mere fact that you conveniently skipped the BASIC issue of your adherence to the implied INFALLIBILITY of the church administration renders all other discussion of questioning or complaining against EVM moot and academic. (In Heb.13:17 there was no mention that submission to the church administration is ABSOLUTE. That type of submission is reserved only for God and Christ. Remember 1 Cor.4:6?). In other words, we don’t have to bother citing specific verses showing the members ‘ rights to question EVM if you already believe that he is infallible. It is just like the case of some close relatives who proudly declared to me that if the church administration orders them to drink poison, they will gladly obey. What can I say? To each his own belief. But in my case, I consider myself lucky that I was raised in a different era (EGM’s time) when I experienced firsthand the freedom to question the church administrator (but with utmost respect, of course) because, like his predecessor FYM, EGM was approachable and patient in answering questions and criticisms especially those done in good faith. This was what made me strong in my faith because I was confident that EGM was not a lord to be served but a servant -leader as described by our Lord Jesus Christ in Mark 10:42-45 Amplified Bible, Classic Edition (AMPC):
    42 But Jesus called them to [Him] and said to them, You know that those who are recognized as governing and are supposed to rule the Gentiles (the nations) lord it over them [ruling with absolute power, holding them in subjection], and their great men exercise authority and dominion over them.
    43 But this is not to be so among you; instead, whoever desires to be great among you must be your servant,
    44 And whoever wishes to be most important and first in rank among you must be slave of all.
    45 For even the Son of Man came not to have service rendered to Him, but to serve, and to give His life as a ransom for ([a]instead of) many.”
    ** It doesn’t make sense to me that when we are missionizing people from other religions, we encourage them to ask questions and air out their criticisms on anything about the INC so that these can be answered to their satisfaction en route to acquiring true faith. How come that when they become members they can no longer ask questions especially about the administration which affect their faith? Additional verses I found that describe a true church administration are in 1 Peter 5:2-4 Amplified Bible, Classic Edition (AMPC):
    2 Tend (nurture, guard, guide, and fold) the flock of God that is [your responsibility], not by coercion or constraint, but willingly; not dishonorably motivated by the advantages and profits [belonging to the office], but eagerly and cheerfully;
    3 Not domineering [as arrogant, dictatorial, and overbearing persons] over those in your charge, but being examples (patterns and models of Christian living) to the flock (the congregation).
    4 And [then] when the Chief Shepherd is revealed, you will win the [a]conqueror’s crown of glory.

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  32. TO: Mark Ferry John Lamsen, my question to you is: Is EVM above GOD? Who is EVM COMPARED to GOD? Do you really KNOW the Bible? Or you just believed EVM n d Sangoons? You read the book of Exodus n Numbers even Deuteronomy–YOU can read there HOW MANY TIMES Moses QUESTION n ARGUE with GOD!! Then now,YOU cannot ARGUE n QUESTION EVM,you Blind n Fanatics!! Who do you THINK EVM is? Is he more POWERFUL than GOD and CHRIST? Your MIND,SOUL and SPIRIT is of the DEVIL!! READ this Fanatic GUY in JONAH 3:10 and 4:1—When God saw their deeds,that they turned from their wicked way,then God RELENTED concerning the calamity w/c He had declared He would bring upon them.He did not do it. In 4:1 But it GREATLY DISPLEASED Jonah and he became ANGRY.!! As we know,Jonah was sent to Nineveh to preach God’s word to the people so thet God wont punish THEM if they repent.When the people repent God did not punish them and Jonah was ANGRY wwith God because of that. READ it Mark,read it!! But God DID NOT EXPELLED or KILLED Jonah eventhough he was Displeased and Angry with GOD!! But in the EVM Church if you asked the ABOUT Corruption and Anomalies THEY will Epelled you or KILL YOU!! Did you SEE the BIG DIFFERENCE Fanatics Mark!! NO WHERE in the Bible says I ama GOD o I am CHRIST– OBEY FIRST and NEVER COMPLAIN!! Did you get it BLIND and FANATICS Follower of EVM n Sangoons!!!!

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  33. Dagdag ko pa Mark Lamsen–WALA kang mababasa sa BIBLIA na si Apostol SANTIAGO na Unang TP ng umakyat sa langit ang P.J.Cristo ay NAG-UTOS na OBEY First and NEVER COMPLAIN–na ITINURO ngayon NILA EVM !! Samakatuwid,labag ito sa Biblia sapagkat si SANTIAGO ay HALAL mismo ng CRISTO at APOSTOL pa ay HINDI nagturo o nag-utos ng GANYAN!!At uulitin ko lang uli–saan mababasa sinabi ng Dios–Obey n never complain maging ang CRISTO na ULO ng Iglesia walang ganyang UTOS!! kaya Idilat mo mata ng puso mo,huag kang Bulag at panatiko!! maliwanag!!

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  34. Pilit INIUUGNAY ng mga OWE/STF and the Sangoons yung talata sa Colosas 1:25 kay EVM para patunayan ang pagiging “tunay” na lagay o halal ng Dios si EDONG and I quote in Pilipino–Na ako’y (Pablo) ,ginawang ministro nito,ayon sa Pamamahala na Mula sa Dios na IBINIGAY sa Akin para sa inyo upang maipahayag ang mga salita ng Dios. NAPAKALINAW mga OWE/STF/Sangoons–IBINIGAY ng Dios ang Pamamahala kay PABLO,hindi kay EVM!! Si EVM hindi TUNAY na TP,kaya Papaano siyang Mamamahala ng TAPAT sa DIOS at CRISTO eh HINDI naman siya tunay na Napatungan ng kamay ng ka EGM.Hindi nga sinunuod ng SANGOONS ang UTOS ng ka EGM na Maghalalan ng TAONG papalit sa KANYA as TUNAY na TP,maliwanag mga bu…!! At sa Hebreo 13:17,paborito din nila he he he– magsitalima kayo sa namiminuno sa inyo at kayo’y pasakop sa kanila:….sa 18) Idalangin ninyo Kami: sapagka’t kami’y NANINIWALANG LUBOS na KAMI ay may MABUTING BUDHI,na nagnanasang MABUHAY ng MARANGAL sa LAHAT ng BAGAY.!! Kayo ngayong mga LIDER at mga Ministro at manggagawa sa EVM Church–nasa sa INYO ba ang mga bagay na SINABING ITO ni Apostol Pablo o KAIBAYO ng mga KATANGIAN ng ISANG “TUNAY” na MINISTRO?? Sagoottt!!! Pasasakop at Susunod kami sa mga Apostol o mga KAMANGGAGAWA ng DIOS na ang URI at KATANGIAN ay ang mga BInanggit ni Apostol Pablo,kung KAIBAYO o KAIBA –kayo na lang na mga BULAG at PANATIKO ang Sumunod kina EVM n COMPANY intiende!!!

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    1. To PDC : If you didn’t get an answer to your request yet, you must register and have a Facebook account and all you have to do is type “SHER LOCK” in the search box to get a list. Just make sure you click on “SHER LOCK: The Voice of The Brethren” because there are many fake Sher Lock accounts.

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  35. Talata sa BIBLIA na BAWAL talaga na MANGUTANG ng ANO pa man at KANINOMAN—Roma 13:8!! Kaya hindi lang pala ito BAWAL ng SUGO na sinunod ng ka EGM!! Mismong nasa BIBLIA pala ito sa pagtuturo ni Apostol PABLO na derechong ISINUGO ng Cristo!! GAWA 26:13-18 Lapastangan ang mga LIDER daw kuno ngayon na IBINAON sa UTANG ang tunay na INC na ngayon ay IGLESIA NILA!!!

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    1. Sumobra ka na yata sa pagbasa sa biblia, bro. Literal naman ang pagbasa mo sa utang o “debt”. Kahit sino puwedeng mag-interpret ng mga salita ng Diyos at batid natin na kapag hindi galing sa Espiritu ng Diyos ay sariling opinyon lang. Bawal ang “private interpretation”. Ako may mga credit cards at mortgage na binabayaran buwan-buwan pati na ang kotse. Ibig sabihin nagkasala ako? Ang isang negosyante ay may utang. Kailangan niya ng credit para makapag-negosyo. Sino sa atin ang may puro cash ang hawak? Ang mahalaga ay dapat bayaran sa takdang panahon. Ang mga hindi magandang gawain tulad ng 5-6 ang siyang kasalanan dahil pinagsasamantalahan ang mga mahihirap at nagigipit. Pero ang utang mismo hindi kasalanan.

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  36. Nilinaw ko naman ka Mario–ang IGLESIA ang huag mong Ipangungutang.Sinabi rin ni ka Erdy na minsan nagigipit tayo o ang isang TAO at napipilitan mangutang>Sabi niya (ka EGM) kung babayaran mo TAMA lamang,ang masama huag kang Magbayad. Ang MASAMA kina EVM ,PAG-AARI ng DIOS ang INIUTANG at ISINANLA,hindi niya pag-aari.Kaya nga Naghamon pa ka Erdy di ba,kung MAKASUMPONG KAYO na ang INC ay may UTANG o NAKASANLA na Pag-aari,Maghiwa-hiwalay na TAYO.!! Kaya DAPAT Hiwalayan at Layasan si EDONG n COMPANY!! Ako rin ‘tol dami utang pero bayad on time!! Saka pambayad ko,hindi ko Ninanakaw sa IBANG TAO,pinagpaguran ko ang pinambabayad ko.Kaya nga may Part Time pa ako pandagdag sa pension ko,Bro.!!

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    1. Buti ka pa bayad on time. Nangyari na sa akin noon na puro minimum ang binayad ko sa mga credit cards ko. Salamat sa Diyos at nalagpasan ko na ang mga pagsubok noon.

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  37. Sa Iglesia pag ginawa mo yan–ANO pa man ang “dahilan” at KANINO ka man “nangutang” MALI at MASAMA dahil Lahat ng mehoras o pag-aari ng Iglesia– sa DIOS ito,hindi sa kaninomang NAGING LIDER o MAGIGING LIDER,kaya Mali at Kasalanan na IPANGUTANG o IUTANG o mga SANLA na gaya ng Ginawa “NILA” na mga tagapanguna daw kuno!!!

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  38. Ka Mario di ba sabi ko sayo “kung nagkamali ako” humihingi ako ng sorry.I did’nt mean to OFFEND you and Others.Binasa ko yun o kinuha ko sa bibliang Tagalog na Dating Salin. At narito ang ibang mga salin ng Biblia sa ENGLISH at iisa-isahin ko at kayo na ang “umintindi”.Uulitin ko lang na ang pagbanggit ko ng Huag Mangutang ay UKOL sa Iglesia na tulad na ginawa NILA, ng “Iglesia NILA”.
    Sa KJV Romans 13:8–OWE no man Anything:
    Sa AMPLIFIED same book — Keep out of DEBT and OWE no man anything:
    Sa LNT same book———Pay all your DEBTS except the debt of love;
    Sa RSV same book——– OWE no One anything,except to love one another
    Inuulit ko Bro. sorry if I made mistake?about it,but I made it CLEAR,it’s about the EVM Church n Companies DID to the TRUE INC na ngayon ay EVM church na!!! Na IBINAON sa UTANG ang Iglesia ni Cristo,na Malinis at Marangal!!

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    1. Ang serioso mo naman. Kailan man di ako magagalit o mapipikon sa iyo. Ang mga mahilig lang umutang na hindi nagbabayad ang mga OWE. OWE keeps on OWING but never pays.

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    2. Ang alam ko, totoong ipinagbawal sa panahon ni Ka Erdy ang utangan sa loob ng Iglesia dahil pinagmumulan ng away. Lalo na kung walang kasulatan. Ang sabi nga ng isang ministro, ang problema sa utangan, hindi naman sumangguni sa pangangasiwa pero gagawing “collection agency” kapag nagkaproblema. Tandang tanda ko pa na pinag-uusapan namin sa pamunuan ng lokal kung paano ito maipatutupad dahil parehong ipinagbabawal ang pag-utang at pagpapautang. Paaano na ang may tunay na pangangailangan o emergency tulad ng naospital o namatayan? Marahil ang gusto ng pangangasiwa ay magtulong-tulong na lang na makalikom ng halagang magagamit ng totoong nangangailangan at huwag nang daanin sa pangungutang. At dahil wala namang parusang binanggit, naisip namin na marahil kung may nagpautang hindi na siya makakaasa na tutulong ang pangangasiwa na mapagbayad ang nangutang. At kung naawa siya, dapat ay handa siyang ibalato na lang sa nangutang kung hindi kayang magbayad. Anyway, ang mahalagang punto tungkol sa issue ng pangungutang: kung mayroong hindi maliwanag sa tagubilin malaya tayong MAGTANONG or MAG-COMPLAIN kung may problema sa pagpapatupad at buo ang tiwala natin kay Ka Erdy dahil sa matalino at mapagmahal niyang mga pagpapasiya. Kaibang kaiba kay “lord” EVM.

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      1. May kilala akong diakono sa lokal noon sa amin na nagra-racket ng Social Security benefitis. May tindahan siya at doon pumupunta ang tumatanggap ng welfare para palitan ang tseke na may bawas. Ibig sabihin, kung $100 ang tseke mo ang matatanggap mo $90 ang ang diakono ito ang kikita. Hindi lang sa mga sanlibutan ang ilegal niyang gawain kundi sa mga kapatid. Nagpapautang siya ng 5-6. May isang kapatid pa nga ang nagsanla ng kanyang mga alahas at nang hindi nakabayad ay iyon na lang ang kinuha. Imposible na hindi alam ng pamumuan o destinado ang kanyang racket. Baka sila man ay nakikinabang sa pautang niya. Kilala siyang mapag-alaga sa bawa’t ministro. Lahat na nadestino sa lokal ay busog.

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  39. Ka PDC yun ngang nasa Roma 13:8 bawal mangutang at kung “mangutang ka BAYARAN mo”. Tama si ka TACIO,IPINAGBAWAL yan ng ka EGM kundi ako nagkakamali ay early 2000.TAMA si ka Tacio,UPANG MAIWASAN ang AWAY o SAMAAN ng LOOB na “makasisira sa KAPATIRAN”. Correct me if am Wrong,ang Tagubulin pa noon (circular letter) ang MAGPAUTANG at MANGUTANG ay Ikatitiwalag. Kaya nga noon may nangungutang sa misis ko na dknesa pa,sabi ng misis ko,sige kapatid baka Matiwalag tayong dalawa pag pinautang kita.!! Di na kumibo ang dknesa. Ka PDC wala akong alam na talata ukol sa mangutang o magpautang kundi ito nga lang sa Roma 13;8 na KAILAN ko lang nabasa.Ngunit SUMASAMPALATAYA tayo noong PAMAMAHALA ng ka EGM na SIYA ay may BASBAS at PATNUBAY ng DIOS,kaya ang PASYA noon na BAWAL “Mangutang at magpautang” ay LEGAL o Aprubado ng Dios.Kaya noon o kahit ngayon (bagama’t di na ito nababanggit) UMIIRAL pa ito kung Ipatutupad ng IGLESIA NILA. Kasi wala namang sinirkular ukol dito na HINDI na ito Bawal o Ipinatigil na ang pag-iral. Ito ang sagot ko sa tanong mo ka PDC.

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    1. This is just a sample result when you google or search the internet about biblical verses on debt and borrowing: https://www.crosswalk.com/family/finances/debt/lending-borrowing-and-the-bible.html
      Is debt a sin? What’s our responsibility as a borrower?
      God’s word never speaks of debt as a sin, but there are clear references to debt as “slavery.” Borrowing money is never encouraged in the scriptures, and when Moses spoke to the people of Israel, borrowing from others was listed as a consequence of disobedience. So what parameters should we live by when borrowing money?
      Pay back every penny! The Bible is clear that when we do decide to take on debt, we are to pay back what we borrowed! In Psalm 37 we read: “The wicked borrows but does not pay back…” Or how about Ecclesiastes 5:5 “It is better that you should not vow than that you should vow and not pay.” 
      Don’t finance your wants with debt! Too many of us treat debt as a way to finance our wants and desires. That’s plain foolish! Because of our inability and unwillingness to say no to “stuff,” we convince ourselves that we have to have whatever that “it” is, and therefore place our families and ourselves in a position of enormous financial stress. Before you borrow money, sit down and make sure you have the financial margin to manage that debt as part of your monthly cash flow. If you don’t, pray and trust God for provision. Give Him the chance to act on your behalf, instead of immediately reaching for man-made solutions!
      What’s our obligation as a lender?
      Both the Old and New Testaments speak to the subject of lending and address the abuse with lending practices. As believers we are admonished to lend to those who are in need, to lend to the poor, without expecting anything in return.  In Luke 6:34 we read: “And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to get back the same amount.”
      Is charging interest wrong?
      Exodus 22:25 says: “If you lend money to any of my people with you who is poor, you shall not be like a moneylender to him, and you shall not exact interest from him.”
      … what about lending to those who are not part of the body of Christ? Here is what we find in Luke 6:35: “But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil.”

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  40. There is a VERSE in the Bible that you can QUESTION the Pamamahala o Namamahala. In Galatians 2:11,14. Si Pablo,sinalansang,tinutulan o kinuestion si Pedro.Sino si Pablo,MIEMBRO o SANGKAP ng KATAWAN o SANGA ng PUNO. Di ba TAYONG “lahat” na sangkap ang bumubuo sa KATAWAN(Iglesia)? Kaya as MEMBER,si Pablo KINUESTION si Pedro na Namamahala sa mga Judio!!. Sabi ni CRISTO –KAYONG lahat ay MAGKAKAPATID(pantay-pantay sa paningin ng Dios) Mateo 23:8 Sabi ni Pablo bagama’t siya ay maytungkulin–2 Cor.2:24 HINDI sa KAMI ay may PAGKA-Panginoon sa inyong pananampalataya… IISA lamang ang Tunay na Namamahala at Pamamahala sa INC ,ang ULO,ang CRISTO.SIYA lamang ang HINDI puedeng KUESTIONIN,hindi ang SINOMANG Sangkap “lamang” ng Katawan NIYA!! Ano ba ang TUNAY na DAHILAN at PUEDE na KUESTIONIN ang sinoman sa Iglesia na “Lider” o “Namamahala”–heto sa 14 ng Galacia nilinaw ni Pablo–“Ngunit ng Aking MAKITA na HINDI “SILA nagsisilakad ng MATUWID ayon sa KATOTOHANAN ng EVANGHELIO”,sinabi ko kay Cefas…. Napakalinaw–SINOMAN na HINDI lumalakad ng MATUWID ayon sa KATOTOHANAN ng BIBLIA—puedeng KUESTIYONIN!! Paano yan mga Bulag at Panatikong OWE/STF?? Sagoot!!! Lumalakad ba KAYO ngayon ng ayon sa KATOTOHANAN na nasa BIBLIA!!! Si evm hindi Nagkakamali.Pastor ng Kawan sa Juan 10:16,Obey him and never Complain, Siya ang Maghahatid sa Kaligtasan,Siya ang Bantay ng Kaluluwa at Pananamplataya? mga buang–SAAN mababasa sa BIBLIA LAHAT ng IKINAP{IT ninyong iyan kay EDONG?? sagoott!!!! Kaya PUEDE SIYANG TUTULAN,KUESTIONIN at IHAYAG lahat ng mga KAMALIAN ninyong mga ARALat TURO!!! Intiende!! UULITIN ko,sa Mata ng Dios at Cristo–IISAlang tayo–Magkakapatid o SANGKAP ng Katawan,Hindi tayo o sinoman ang ULO,ang CRISTO lamang na HINDI puedeng Kuestionin tulad ng AMANG DIOS na di puedeng kuestionin.HINDI si EVM at mga SANGOONS!!! Kahit ang SUGO sinabi noon,puede SIYANG Kuestinonin dahil siya ay TAO lamang na NAGKAKAMALI!! nalimutan nyo yan o sadyang KINALIMUTAN ninyo na mga Bulag at Panatikong TAGASUNOD ng EVM Church n Company!!

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  41. Hard reality of mob or herd mentality? http://youtu.be/z4IGqwNgF3Q. SAD BUT TRUE! If supporters of US President Trump, in the realm of POLITICS (TEMPORAL), choose to ignore his many defects such as being a racist, the same and more can be said of the supporters of EVM, in the realm of RELIGION (SPIRITUAL), who choose to ignore EVM’s many defects such as suppressing dissent through his erroneous, self-serving “obey and NEVER complain/question” decree. It is therefore up to the SILENT MAJORITY to take steps to remedy the situation. In US politics, it is much easier because there are checks and balances in place especially impeachment and the regular election every 4 years. In religion, especially in the INC, it is much harder, if not improbable, because of the INC’s legal structure which is corporation sole or is it already stock corporation with captive board of directors? How I wish I could be optimistic as CNN’s Chris Cuomo when he said: “This is no time for somebody who is not a bigot to keep quiet… The one thing that knits us together is equality… People must be made to care because politics is persuasion.”

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    1. You could include pro-Duterte groups and Duterte fanatics. Despite all his mistakes, 16 millions who voted for him continue to support him. But compare Duterte to EVM, the former is a much better person. He loves his family. EVM not only expelled his own mother and siblings but treated them worse than enemies.

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