The Week in Review: Trump, Trials and Toys

Trump abolish Johnson Amendment

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Let’s start with politics. This should make EVM smile. This week U.S. President Trump announced that he will eliminate the Johnson Amendment which prevents religious organisations from meddling in politics. If you recall, 2016 was a banner year for the INC (see article: Elections – Part 2) when INC Administration pushed for unity to the point of frightening even the little children of doom and judgment if one did not unite in voting, in the Philippines, that is. But in America the Administration was silent as a church mouse when it came to the elections. So how can that doctrine be so emphasized in one country and then totally mum in another? The fear of losing tax exemption, that’s why.

Brother Angel

As we can see brother Angel was transported by the police. Despite the treatment he receives he remains quiet. He, unlike the sibling, does not bash his own brother nor speak any ill will against anyone. Meanwhile the followers of the older brother are like squealing with glee at the suffering of another person.

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This post of brother Joel San Pedro is an example:

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Deadly mercenaries?!

If you truly want to say deadly, let us ask, how many died at the hands of ka Angel? ZERO. Now let’s do a body count with EVM’s projects….

3 from the Arena construction

2 from the New Year celebration

8 in the Aid to Humanity

Who would you call deadly?

 

Baptism in the time of EVM’s administration

Hong Kong had a “baptism”  which was posted online. I use baptism in the loosest sense because it was in a toy kiddie pool. What’s wrong with that, the apologists would argue. Nothing, if it had been done like what the Bible says:

“We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life”. Roman 6:4

Was it done like a burial?  Who gets buried sitting and then ducking down?

That’s why  Acts 8:38 says,

And he gave orders to stop the chariot. Then both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water and Philip baptized him.

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The one to be baptised and the one baptising both go into the water. It is a burial. I didn’t know the minister can just put his ankles in and that would count as both going into the water. That’s like the priest saying “yes, when I christened, my hands were in the water too” 😊

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I’m sure some will defend this picture and say nothing is wrong with it. Ok, then here is the challenge, put it in the Pasugo or INCMEDIA.ORG for all to see. Publish it, cute design and all.

Then this person who keeps trolling my posts has the nerve to write:

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Really? The question is would you allow your child to be baptised in a drum? The answer – you would still obey EVM if he said so?? Would that still be scriptural? That’s exactly the point many are saying. Even to the point of breaking God’s laws you would still obey. That kind of mentality, my friends, is what we have to be aware of, and exactly why we have to continue to refuse to change God’s laws even to the point of being persecuted.

Ahh but that’s another week of life under the EVM administration.

 

 

 

 

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55 thoughts on “The Week in Review: Trump, Trials and Toys

  1. What is mercenary?  mercenary is a person who takes part in an armed conflict who is not a party to the conflict and is “motivated to take part in the hostilities by desire for private gain”. Mercenaries fight for money or other recompense instead of fighting for ideological interests, whether they agree with or are against the existing government.

    What is accident?  an undesirable or unfortunate happening that occurs unintentionally and usually results in harm, injury, damage, or loss; casualty.

    Kung may napahamak man po sa mga sinasabi niyong okasiyon yun po ay dahil sa aksidente at hindi sinasadiya.
    Samantalang ang nangyari pong pamamaril sa mga pulis na nag issue ng warrant of arrest sa #36 Tandang sora ay Alam nating hindi isang aksidente kundi gawa ng isang ex-marine na inuupahan ng kampo Ni G. Angel para magbantay sa kanila.
    At salamat sa pag post mong muli ng sagot ko, sana naitindihan o naipaliwanag sayo ng mga kasama mo. Malinaw ang sagot ko, kailanman ay hindi yun ipapasiya ng Pamamahala. Kung talagang kayo ay nagmamalasakit at natitisod sa pagbabautismo na naganap sa Hongkong, ipinarating niyo ng maayos sa Pamamahala at hindi sa pamamagitan ng social media. Yan Ang Sabi ng ka Erdy, kung mag uulat ay iulat ng maayos sa Tanggapan na nakalagdang malinaw ang pangalan ng nag uulat hindi yung walang pangalan, Masama Ang hangarin niyan.”

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  2. As far as your suggestion as to why not “report” to the Administration – I’ll tell you specific examples without putting names:
    1. There were those STF boys who were “reported” by older Ministers during Bro. Erdy’s time, for having pornography. He took action on them. They were kicked out and he never reinstated them. As soon as he passed away, EVM not only brought them back and many of them are now District Ministers.
    2. A sister who wrote to her District Minister “reporting” about her Resident Minister changing the numbers on their locale reports. What do you think happened? It was the sister who was taken out of her duty.
    3. 2 Ministers on separate occasions were late for their Worship Service assignments. They were “reported”. They were moved. Why? Not suspended but they were promoted, one of them is now in INCmedia and the other is in the District staff.

    Shall I go on? If you think these are lies I can put their NAMES in if you like.

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    1. 1. Kung nadisiplina man ang sinasabi mong STF, Tama yun dahil sa pagkakamali. At kung ibinalik siya, Wala ring Mali dun lalo na at nagbagong buhay. At ang STF, ibinaba sila Hindi dahil sa pornography.
      2. Tiyak hindi napatunayan ng kapatid ang ulat niya Kaya siya inalis, kung totoo man ang sinasabi mo. Kasi Hindi naman kailangang ulat Lang, kailangan niyang patunayan. O baka may ibang ginawa Ang kaptid Kaya siya ibinaba.
      3. Ang pagkahuli sa pangangasiwa, Hindi naman batayan para hindi i promote Ang isang ministro. Bagaman dinidisiplina pero hindi naman para hindi na I promote.

      Kung yan lang Ang batayan niyo para hindi mag ulat sa Pamamahala. Napakababaw na dahilan.

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      1. Mababaw – that means shallow right? If there is anything that is shallow is that reply of yours. How can you defend my points when you don’t even know the individuals’ cases?
        1. You have a point regarding the STF – they were kicked out NOT ONLY for Pornography but for other reasons. Tell us, what were those OTHER REASONS? Why were they not reinstated by Bro. Erdy?
        2. How do you know that officer did not prove her case? Did you see her report? Did you see what evidence she presented?
        3. You miss my point on the third part. I did not say they were promoted because they were late. I said they were reported but not disciplined but were instead promoted. There is a difference. Comprende?
        Perhaps if you translated your points I could respond much sooner.

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      2. Why they are not reinstated by bro Eraño? Sinong nagbalik sa karapatan kay bro. Jojo de Guzman? Di ba ang Ka Erdy. STF ba si ka Jojo? opo, bakit ibinalik Ng ka Erdy? Dahil tinanggap niya ang pagdisiplina sa kaniya, nagsisi at nagbago. Hindi lumaban sa Pamamahala.
        How do you know that they were not disciplined?

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  3. ^_^ (1.) Hindi talaga kayo natuto sa gabay ng Diyos sa Iglesia Ni Cristo simula pa sa panahon ng Sugo at hanggang sa kasalukuyang inilagay ng Diyos na Pamamahala ng kapatid na Eduardo V. Manalo. Kahit ano pa ang gawin ng mga pulitiko na panggigipit sa Iglesia gaya ng mga ginawa ng mga pulitiko sa panahon ng Sugo, ng Ka Erdie at ng Ka Eduardo, nagtatagumpay pa rin ang Iglesia sa gawain nitong pagpapalaganap. Wala nang pagtalikod. Kayo na lang na mga nagdilim ang tumalikod. Kayo ang natatakot sa tao gaya ng pulitiko at hindi nagtitiwala sa mga pangako ng Diyos sa Iglesia Niya at sa Pamamahalang inilagay Niya.
    (2.) Tahimik si Angel? Tahimik ba yung YouTube video nya na gumulantang at nagbigay ng pagkaka-baha-bahagi? Tahimik ba yung pagbibiro niya na may nagpaskil daw na bata sa bintana nila? Tahimik nga. Tahimik na nag-ipon ng mga armada. Para saan? Para sa kapitbahay? LOL!
    (3.) Ukol naman sa bautismo sa inflated pool, bakit ipinipilit mo na drum iyon? Noong panahon ng Ka Erdie, mayroong mga bautismo sa mapuputik na ilog at makeshift small pool. https://www.facebook.com/dennis.abat.3/posts/10156135597178266 Bakit ikinukumpara mo sa binyag ng Catoliko samantalang pareho namang nakalusong yung binabaustismuhan at nagbabautismo sa inflatable pool. Sa English: They were both IN the water. Ano nilabag dun? Sayang ang oras ninyo makahanap lang ng maibabato sa Iglesia. Move on na kayo. Ewan ko lang kung ipost mo itong comment ko sa blog mo (Y)

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  4. Dear Sir, thank you for reading my blog. I do request that you write your comments in English. I have shown you courtesy by posting your comments, so please show your courtesy to other readers by commenting in English as well.

    I don’t mind if others want to write in Tagalog, if they are agreeing with what I say. But if you’re going to disagree with me and write in Tagalog, I may not be able to reply properly.

    As for the videos of Bro. Angel, I see nothing divisive about what he said, nor did he attack his own brother. I’m not exactly sure of what you are saying. (can anyone help with the word “gumalantang”? Google is not helping) The video is about other ministers who are in danger. And there were. Why do you think they had to flee the country? Nor has he ever joked about his own brother. As a matter of fact, it is the other way around; EVM joked about his mother and his siblings becoming angry. And this is in a worship service broadcasted around the world!

    I don’t understand your point about the drum. It’s another person’s comment saying he would allow his children to be baptized in a drum. But perhaps I did not elaborate enough on the point about baptism in Hong Kong.

    What the point is, Hong Kong is not a new locale. It has been around for decades. One district minister even boasted that there were thousands of Bible students in Hong Kong a couple of years ago. (though we have not seen a baptism of thousands there). They have had many baptisms in the past, I’m sure. So why is it now being done, instead of a rented swimming pool or a beach? It is, after all, an island. The problem is with the EXPENSES of renting. Which brings us back to the problem that many locales and districts are experiencing – the funds are being drained and to who knows where. Why do you think that many of the brethren who were expelled were officers? They could see the discrepancies! So why a kiddie pool when there are thousands of brethren giving offerings, instead of renting a pool? It’s called a broke-ass baptism – I doubt you’ll get the translation for that one, laddie.

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  5. Bro.EDGE gumulantang means “shocking” shocking news.To the blind followers what ka Angel said or exposed was a shocking news for Them! it creates division according to them.Thats the PROOF that you cannot REPORT TO THIS ADMINISTRATION either they will EXPELLED you or HARM you or DESTROY your Character(character assassination).Di tulad noon ng ka EGM ,ako nag-uulat NGUNIT KAILANMAN hindi ako pinagalitan,tiniwalag o pinausig sa mga kapatid o mga ministro.Thats d BIG Difference NOW.Imagine JUST ASKING ABOUT ANOMALIES n other WRONGDOINGS you will be Expelled or they gonna HUNT you n be Totured by those GOD-Minister/Ministers? Are these the people you RESPECT n CALLED GOD CO-WORKERS?? Shame on ALL of YOU,You HYPOCRITES!! Mr. OWE may KAKAMPI ka na ha? WHO CREATED DIVISION? ka Angel?? really? WHO Promoted d MOTTO I AM ONE WITH EVM?? YOU GUYS? That’s WHY you keep ASKING ALL D BRETHREN in d Church, “ARE YOU EVM or NOT? If you say NO,Expelled that bro./sis. or the WHOLE FAMILY. MR> OWE until NOW you dont want to answer my Question–WHEN did Ka FYM n Ka EGM IMPLEMENTED that MOTTO I am One with FYM/EGM?? NOTHING and NEVER we HAD THAT !! So YOUR master n lord EVM is Different from THEM WHO were REALLY RIGHTEOUS in the EYE of our Almighty GOD. THEY EVEN REFUSED to be CALLED “SIR” not like YOUR master n lord EVM.NOBODY EVEN KISSED THEIR(FYM/EGM) HANDS not LIKE your master n lord EVM. Answer me Faithfully,what I said are TRUE right?? Masama ang LIAR YOU WILL GO TO HELL with your Father,the Devil!!When in the TIME of ka FYM n ka EGM IMPOSED to us to WEAR by PIN, t-SHIRT n d LIKES with I am One etc. and with THUMBMARK or THUMBPRINT?? SAGOOOTTTT!! Puro kayo PAUSO at PAUTOT!! Sabi nga sa BIBLIA “may TANDA ng KANIYANG PANGALAN” ang halimaw na sinasamba.For Bro.EDGE :WHO Worship d Beast and His IMAGE n whosoever RECEIVED the MARK of HIS NAME(rev.14:11) Lots of PICTURE in the Chapel compound n lately the Brethren in South Cotobato made a PICTURE of god the son(angelo’s bday) on the Grassy Ground. ALL of YOU OWE’s are FALLING d so called I D O L A T R Y. You are all like ACTORS n ACTRESSES FANATICS Followers!! And DIE HARD POLITICIANS Followers too!!! SO OWE’S who Created Divisions in d Church ka Angel or your Master n Lord EVM who is VERY INSECURED n always asking for YOUR help in Continuing to DESTROY His LOVED ONES life n characters by USING the PULPIT in Every Worship Service right?Then ALL of you have GUTS to TEACH Brotherly LOVE in d Church??? Mga MAPAGPAIMBABAW!!

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    1. Tortured by ministers? Sino sa mga lumaban at nanira sa Iglesia Ang tinor-ture ng mga ministro?
      Para sayo hindi pagkakabahabahagi Ang ginawa Ni G. Angel na pagsasabing… 1. Nanganganib daw sila ( pero ng tanungin nung madaling araw Hindi naman daw sila nanganganib) Hindi lang gumagawa ng pagkakabahabahagi bahagi nagsinungaling pa. 2. Pag aakit ng vigil. Para saan?
      Matagal ng ipinanawagan yan ng Ka Erdy at ng Sugo na itinuturo sa pagsamba magpasakop o makipagkaisa sa Pamamahala. Ikaw na rin ang nagsabi na yun ay motto, Bakit yun ginawa? Hindi bilang bagong doktrina o tuntunin, kundi upang ipakita Ang pagsunod sa utos ng Diyos na Sumunod o pasakop sa Pamamahala. At sapagkat ang Pamamahala ngayon ay ang ka EVM Kaya One with EVM = kaisa ng ka Eduardo. Saan kami kaisa ng Pamamahala? Sa pagsunod sa mga utos ng Panginoong Diyos. Katulad sa panahon ng ka Felix at ng ka Erdy na Ang mga kapatid ay kaisa sa pagsunod.
      And about Sir, sa panahon pa man ng ka Erdy Ang naririnig ko na sa mga ministro na tawag ay Sir, may inaalis ba sa karapatan sa panahon mg ka Erdy dahil tumawag ng Sir?
      Pin… Ang ipinagbawal ng ka Erdy na pin ay may picture ng ka Felix at Ka Erdy…. Pero Ang ibang pin pwede.
      T-shirt – Hindi yan bago noon pa man mayroon na niyan.
      Tanda ng kaniyang pangalan… Huwag mong baluktutin Ang nasa Biblia, Ang Sabi Ang tanda ng pangalan ay my bilang ng 666″ .
      Idolatry: Hindi masama Ang magkaroon ng larawan ng mga taong mahalaga. Ang masama Sabi sa Exo. 20:1-3MB … “Huwag mong paglilingkuran sila”
      Kaya ikaw ang tatanungin ko ngayon, sino Ang gumawa ng pagkakabahabahagi? Sino Ang naglabas ng video na nanganganib daw ang buhay nila, gayong hindi naman? Sino Ang nagsabing hindi lehitimong Tagapamahala ang ka Eduardo? Sino Ang nagpakalat na may mga kinidnap daw na mga ministro, gayong Wala naman? Sino Ang nag aangkin ng lupang Hindi kanila? Sino Ang nagpapasok ng mga taong hindi Kilala sa #36 Tandang sora compound, gayong bawal na bawal yun ng ka Erdy?

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      1. Mali ka ng sabihin mong ang pamamahala ay ang ka EVM..siya mismo ang nangaral over webex na ang ibig sabihin ng pamamahala ay Hindi lang siya kundi kasama ang buong sanggunian. Nagpaalala pa siya na ang lumalaban sa mga sangunian ngunit sinasabing mahal parin pamamahal ay Hindi maari, sapagkat nga dahil ang pamamahala ay hindi lang sya.

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      2. Tama ka kapatid na ang Pamamahala ay tumutukoy Hindi lang sa Tagapamahalng Pangkalahatan, kundi maging sa mga katuwang Ng Namamahala. Sapagkat ang salitang Pamamahala ay maaaring tumutukoy sa lahat ng katuwang o management at maari ring tumutukoy sa Partikular na Tao lang. Depende kung paano ginamit sa pangungusap.

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  6. Bro EDGE just translate the meaning of gumulantang n the tagalog verse in Revelation 14;11 for my answer to mr. OWE n the Watchman 2054. We will Continue to STAND n FIGHT for the TRUTH. Did you SEE on bro.WS the picture in the FRONT of the CHAPEL a BIG STREAMER hanging with written Words like this,” I AM ONE WITH GOD-CHRIST-EVM”!! See no more Holy Spirit.THIS is THE NEW “TRINITY” in this EVM Church.A Big BLASPHEMY to the HOLY SPIRIT!!

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    1. Trinity…. May bago pala kayong aral na ginawa tapos itinuturo niyo na aral ng Iglesia. Saan mo narinig na itinuro sa pagsamba na yang Trinity niyo ay aral ng Iglesia? Kasi kung itinuro, aral yan kung hindi nagsisinungaling kayo?

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      1. You know, you don’t have to tell us, because your actions say otherwise.

        One with God.
        One with Christ.
        One with EVM?

        I’m not surprised if non-INC members will tell you that you’re worshipping EVM instead of God and Christ.

        As the popular Tagalog trend goes: “Huwag kami!”

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      2. Yes, with our actions that we are one with God, with Christ and EVM. Si Cristo bakit ba sinasamba? Dahil ba Diyos? Hindi, kundi ayon sa Fil. 2:9-11 utos ng Diyos. Bakit naman napasasakop sa Pamamahala? Utos din ng Diyos na pasakop sa Namamahala Heb. 13:17.
        Kayo Lang Ang nagtuturo, naniniwala at nag iisip ukol sa trinity huwag niyong ipaangkin sa Iglesia.

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  7. Dont be SURPRISED Bro.EDGE if these “brethren” keep Defending the Baptism done on the KIDS Swimming Pool.THEY are ALREADY Used to ADD n SUBTRACT to GOD’s Commandments.That’s why Philip n the EUNUCH went to the RIVER–Plenty of water.John d Baptist keeps BAPTIZING in the JORDAN RIVER. You’re ABSOLUTELY right Bro.EDGE,both,one who will received baptism n d one who will perform the Baptism SHOULD BOTH go INTO the WATER. Forgive them Bro.,as I said ,they are used to subtract or add to God’s Commands.I remember when I got Baptized in the locale of BACLARAN,the Baptismal pool there is UP to my CHEST or almost to my SHOULDER level and IT IS REALLY VERY SOLEMN!! Bro.EDGE bear with me in ENGLISH,I’m not good,just trying it so you can understand d conversation.I dont KNOW why Mr.OWE n HIS new Friend dont want to write in English,I believed they KNOW but dont WANT YOU to understand it,maybe they are AFRAID of YOU Bro., M I right?? he he hehee..In TRUE baptism we NEED PLENTY of WATER not up to the ANKLE or MIDDLE LEG of the Minister!! But to THEM its OK as long as it is APPROVED by thir Beloved EVM!!Never mind GOD’S Commandment NOT to ADD or SUBTRACT, anyway EVM was Placed by GOD!! he he he.So its BETTER n OK to OBEY EVM rather than GOD?? What did Apostle Peter said: WE will OBEY GOD First,Rather than MEN! Mr.OWE n Watchman? do you UNDERSTAND the CONVICTION of the APOSTLES like also Apostle Paul–YOU should NOT go BEYOND what was WRITTEN!! Understand ha???That’s HOW Fanatics all of you,as long as you OBEY EVM,NEVER MIND the Words of GOD written in the BIBLE. Its TRUE because in our Locale I have a Friend who are really DIE HARD EVM,That’s what He and She told me,EVEN EVM is WRONG we will Obey n Submit to Him because He is the TP in the Church! WOW ang BIGAT di ba? Ka FYM n Ka EGM said “DONT Obey n Submit if it is WRONG or Not in d BIBLE period!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But YOUR Lord EVM say NOTHING to CORRECT you,Right? SEE d DIFFERENCE bteween the SUGO/ka EGM and your dear “SIR”? Then you keep saying THERE’S IS NO DIFFERENCE<oh my,oh my!!!

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  8. Mr.OWE n Mr.2054–ibabahagi ko sa inyo ang SINIPI ko sa God’s Message 201 5 sinulat ni ka ARVIN T. GALANG page 32(month of JUNE issue) HETO SULAT NIYA:”Ang HINDI Tumanggap at Umibig sa KATOTOHANAN ang SIYANG maaapektuhan ng PANDARAYA ng DIABLO at Tiyak na MAPAPAHAMAK.Kaya’t kailangang MANGHAWAK sa KATOTOHANAN ang mga Hinirang at HUWAG nila itong BIBITIWAN,Kahit ano ang MAKITA at MARINIG ay HINDI dapat HUMIWALAY sa mga ARAL ng DIOS na ITINURO ng KANIYANG Sugo sa mga Huling Araw. Napakalinaw ng Paliwanag ng kapatid na Ministro para di ka Madaya ng DEMONIO(Diablo).Kaya KAYONG 2,sa SALITA KAYO ng DIOS at ITINURO Niya sa SUGO sa mga Huling Araw. Ano sabi lagi ng SUGO—Pag WALA sa BIBLIA o KALABAN ng BIBLIA,HUWAG KAYONG SUSUNOD!! O basahin NIYO sa JUNE 2015 issue ng God’s Message,baka sabihin nyo Katulad ninyo ako Nag-iimbento ng kung ano-anong SAGOT!!Kapag ito TINUTULAN nyo pa,talagang MADILIM na kayo.Just quote it from Pasugo!!Alam nyo rin itong Paulit-ulit na sinasabing ito ng ka FYM di ba??Bro.EDGE I will try to say it in ENGLISH n pls.bear with me.Excerpt from June 2015 article page 32 written by Bro.Arvin T Galang as I quote: Whoever DOES NOT Received n Loved the TRUTH will be the ONE to be DECEIVED by the DEVIL and be SURE to be CONDEMNED. That’s why the CHOSEN should HOLD onto the Truth and dont LET it Go.No matter what They SEE or HEARD,they should NOT ALLOW to be SEPARATED from GOD’s WORD that was given to and PREACHED by the Last Messenger in these last days. What was ka FYM kept saying and Reminding us? If Manalo’s TEACHING is NOT or AGAINST the BIBLE,DONT OBEY!!! I told them Bro. if am not telling this truth,they can read the PASUGO page 32,issued JUNE 2015. Hope you understand my translation in english Bro.EDGE.So mr.OWE n Mr.2054 the TRUE DEFENDERS are THOSE who keep HOLDING and defending the Truth,no adding or subtracting and on GOD’s,CHRIST and HOLY SPIRIT’s SIDE not on ANY MAN in this world!!!

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    1. Salamat sa pag quote ng nasa pasugo… Sabi “Ang Hindi umiibig sa katotohanan Ang siyang maapektuhan ng pandaraya ng Diablo” alin ang katotohanan? Juan 17:17 Ang salita ng Diyos, Kaya Ang nasa katotohanan ay Ang sumusunod sa utos ng Diyos. Agree? Ano Ang ilan sa mga utos ng Diyos? Heb. 13:17, pasakop sa Namamahala. Ano pa? Huwag mandaraya, yun bang nag aangkin ng lupang Hindi kanila pandaraya o hindi. Ano pa? Huwag magsisinungaling, yung pagsasabing nanganganib, gayong hindi naman nagsasabi ba ng totoo o nagsisinungaling? Yung pagsasabing may nawawala raw na mga ministro gayong Wala naman, nagsisinungaling o hindi? Ano ano Ang inimbento naming sagot? Anong aral itinuturo ngayon na Wala sa Biblia?

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  9. Correction: kaya kayong 2,sa salita ng Dios at sa itinuro ng Sugo kayo SUMUNOD.Kaya ano lagi sinasabi ng Sugo…..conitnue reading June 2015 article….

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  10. The trolls have arrived once again. Sad to say, based from their answers, you can see that it’s “EVM first before God.”

    Bro. Bibliko, good luck in debating with these EVM attack dogs. I’ll pray that you may not end up being admitted in a mental asylum. 😀

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  11. Dont Worry Bro.Antonio,as the Apostles says “IF GOD is with US,who will be AGAINST US? Even if I DIE DEFENDING the TRUTH(God’s Word) so be it. If they caught me and learned who AM I n Tortured or Kill me,who cares,as long as I am with GOD,Our Lord Jesuschrist,the H.Spirit and the TRUTH,I will be very Happy to DIE in the Name ot the “TRUE CHURCH of CHRIST” not this NewgenINC!!Alam ko,these people(OWE n Companies), THEY will JUST DENY and DENY and EVADE my Questions ,kung ano-ano lang ang mga ISASAGOT.Kaya nga NILINAW ko,should be BASED on the Bible and Church REGULATIONS Implemented by ka FYM and ka EGM period!! BUT, Just in case THEY will not answer TRUTHFULLY,I will STOP Arguing with THEM because I dont WANT the WORD of GOD be TRAMPLED by DOGS and PIGS as stated in MATTHEW 7:6 as I quote:”Give not that which is HOLY unto the DOGS,neither cast ye your PEARLS before the SWINE,lest They TRAMPLE them under their feet and TURN again and REND you”! HOLY n PEARLS symbolizes the WORD of GOD. If their answers to my Question is JUST their Opinon,etc.etc. and NOT based in the Bible n regulations of the True n Honest n Righteous ADMINISTRATOR then(ka FYM/EGM),it’s USELESS to Debate or Arguing with THEM!thanks for your Concern Bro.dela Cruz.

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    1. Tortured? Nasa isip mo lang yan at ipinaninira niyo para maging kawawa. Pero ang totoo hindi naman yan ginawa at gagawin ng Iglesia.
      Kung ano ano lang isinasagot o kung ano ano Ang sinasabi mo? Sana nga mabuti ang hangarin mo, kasi ang makikita ko Ang Mali Tama na sayo. Anong halimbawa? Ang masama na ngayon ay Yung kinakamkaman ng lupa at hindi yung nag aangkin ng lupang Hindi kanila, Tama ba ako?
      Sino ba ang Mali, Ang nangangamkam ng lupa o ang may ari ng lupa?

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    1. Edwin Dela Cruz aka Thewatchman2054 , Mga mamatay-tao, ilabas ninyo sina Ka Felix Villocino. Itigil did ninyo ang paghaharas sa mga natiwalag! If you only act as Christian and agree on a civilized discourse, then why not?

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    2. We’re not stupid and dumb enough to do that. What will you do after we reveal our true identity? Report us to your god EVM to have us expelled? And then what? Dismiss us by character assassinating us?

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      1. What’s with that question? Did I ever say someone will die? Why putting on me something I did not say? Defensive much?

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  12. Watchman SAGUTIN ninyo mga tanong ko! KAYO ang DUWAG dahil SINUNGALING kayo at Natatapalan ng PERAAAAA!! Sagutin mo ng maayos,para kang katoliko at protestante ng panahon ng SUGO,pag di MASAGOT nag mga TANONG ng SUGO kung ano-ano Sinasabi o tinatawag sa SUGO.Ganyan ka,IKAW ANG DUWAG dahil alam mo ang nangyayari ngayon sa INC pero sa TAO ka kumakampi,hindi sa SALITA ng DIOS!! Si RIZAL nagtago sa pangalang DIMASALANG–Duwag ba si RIZAL,kailangan lang dahil PAPATAYIN siya agad at HINDI niya MAIMUMULAT ang mata ng mga Pilipino noon. Basahin mo Biblia,si CRISTO man NAGTAGO rin o Umiwas dahil sa Takdang Panahon doon SIYA lalantad!! O,ano pa ang ISASAGOT mo!! IKAW at kayong mga OWE ang mga DUWAG sa panig ng KATOTOHANAN kaya sa DDA kayo sasadlak!SUMAGOT ka sa mga TANONG ko ayon sa BIBLIA at TUNTUNIN ng 2 Matuwid na NAMAHALA sa INC,NAIINTINDIHAN MO????Kapareho ka nga ng kakampi mong OWE kung ano lang ang GUSTONG sabihin ha ha ha ha—Basahin mo bagong TIPAN,si CRISTO nagtago o umiwas din sa mga Kalaban niya sa Katotohanan–paano yan DI DUWAG ang Panginoong Jesucristo?? SAGOOOOTTTTTTTT ng maayos!! Bro.EDGE,this Watchman said I am Coward becoz I’m HIDING my Identity,so I told HIM to read the Bible or New Testament and Our Lord Jesus also HIDE His Identity– He SAID to Apostle Peter and other Disciple–DONT TELL ANYONE that I AM the Christ and even GO on HIDING. HE/OWE cannot answer my QUESTION based on the Bible and Church Regulations,all HE can say is I am Coward–what a PITY and SENSELESS Person!! Matthew 16:20 He even Go on Hiding John 8:59,12:36 and 11:54 Now Mr.Watchman n Mr.Owe check these VERSES –CHRIST Hide his IDENTITY n Go Hiding!! I am Coward According to YOU<how about our Lord Jesus,HIDE His IDENTITY to as the CHRIST?? WAKE-UP COWARDS<you n Owe are the ONE who ARE Cowards.ANSWER my Questions TRUTHFULLY hindi yang kung ano-ano sinasabi MO!! PAHIYA ka ANO?? SUMITAS kayo sa BIBLIA,yan tatanggapin ko,di yang palpak na PANGANGANTIYAW lang-BOBO!!!

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    1. Remember, a fanatic resorts to ad hominem or personal attacks if he cannot answer your question directly.

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      1. Add personal attacks? Katulad ng ginawa Ni bibliko nung nakaraan na nagsabing Bobo at tanga kasi hindi na masagot mga tanong. Like what can you now, in the last part of bibliko’s comment. Huwag ka ng magsalitang Antonio kasi nabackfire.

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      2. Just ask your minions especially Dolly how she cursed EVM’s mother and brothers bigtime. For sure it has EVM’s blessings.

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  13. Bro.John read my ANSWERS to mr.BANTAY-SALAKAY ay WATCHMAN pala.Tama ka AYAW MAGSISAGOT ng mga IYAN ng NAAYON sa Biblia at Tuntunin sa Iglesia kasi WALA hindi namaa NILA masasgot mga TANONG ko mula sa Biblia at tuntunin dahil Kalaban talaga ng Biblia ang mga IPINATUTUPAD at PINAGGAGAWA Nila ngayon sa Iglesia!! Iyon lang SAYAWAN na NAPAKA-SAGWA at sa harapan pa ng mga Kapilya(Bantay n Owe.manood kayo sa INCTV,nanduon ang MAHAHAROT na sayaw at Kantahan na ala-Andrew E.) Ibinawal yan ng SUGO at ka EGM heto talata mga magagaling na Debatista o MANGGUGULO?? Panaghoy ni Propeta JEREMIAS tagalog (KJV) 5:15-16 Ang Kagalakan ng aming puso ay naglikat;ang Aming SAYAW ay napalitan ng Tangisan.Ang putong ay nahulog mula sa aming ulo; Sa ABA namin!,sapagkat KAMI ay NANGAGKASALA!! O mga BULAG ang LINAW niyang talata ano? ang Sayaw o sayawan ay K A S A L A N A N!! INTIENDE!! Isa lang itong Halimbawa,marami pa. SABI ng CRISTO kahit TULDOK o KUDLIT mawala sa Kautusan,MALI na o Kasalanan.Di ba ang PASIYA ng MATUWID na PAMAMAHALA pag NILABAG mo Kasalanan din?? Sagoooottt mga Bulag!! Bantay-S Edwin dela Cruz pala ngalan mo at HITMAN ka pala,kaya pala WALA kang alam sa BIBLIA at puro ka lang DADA!!Akala ko ba IKAW/KAYO ang mga “TUNAY na INC at sa Panig kayo ng Dios at Cristo”? o sa panig kayo ni EVM n SANGOONS??

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    1. Sabi mo bawal, yung may sayawan sa harap ng kapilya, ng Sugo at ka Erdy? Nasagot ko na ito. It na Lang tanong ko, San mo nabasa sa mga tuntunin na bawal Ang mga yan? Ikaw nagsabi pagwala sa tuntunin o sa Biblia Hindi dapat paniwalain.

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  14. I admire this minister’s dedication, answering blog replies (with the truth or outright lies, you be the judge) even in the wee hours of the morning. Just like the public works signage, “your taxes are working for you,” this shows that the monetary offering of the brethren is working. Overtime.

    I smell a promotion coming for this zealot.

    Your masters must be very proud of you.

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  15. WALA ka ngang SINASAGOT pa sa Tanong ko na:KAILAN sa Panahon ng SUGO at ka EGM IPINAGDULDULAN sa Iglesia ang THUMBMARK na may sulat kagaya ng AMONG mo na I AM ONE with FYM/EGM?? Hindi mo ito sinasagot Unggoy? Bakit NILALABAG nyo SIRKULAR na HUWAG patawag na “SIR”ang sinomang Ministro lalo na ang TP?? Kayo ang HINDI sumusunod sa ka ERDY noon pa hanggang ngayon!Kailan ITINURO ng SUGO at ka ERDY na SILA ANG PINAKA-IMPORTANTENG TAO sa buong MUNDO?? Ito ang AYAW ninyony SAGUTIN mga UNGGOY! Sagutin mo muna ang mga ITO bago ka Magdadada!! DADA ka ng DADA di mo ito MASAGOT?? Talagang UMIIWAS kayo dahil WALA KAYONG MAIPAPAKITA NA ang mga BINANGGIT ko ay ITINURO ng 2 NAMAHALA sa IGLESIA ? Sige ano ang batayan ninyo sa Pag-imbento ng Thumbmark na iyan at ang Pinaka-impotanteng Tao sa buong Mundo na si EVM? Sige anong TALATA iyan mababasa?? Ang Mababasa na may TANDA ng KANYANG PANGALAN ay ang Halimaw na NAPASASAMBA,yan ang kinatuparan ng THUMBMARK ninyo ngayon.Talaga namang TRINITY na kayo,ang LINAW di mo makita??–I AM ONE with GOD,CHRIST n EVM,Nasaan ang E.SANTO? Di ba TINANGGAL nyo at IPINALIT nyo si Lord EVM?? BULAG!!!Sabi ng ka EGM ang salitang “SIR” ayon sa OXFORD DICTIONARY ay pinaikling salitang “SIRE” na ang KAHULUGAN ay MASTER o LORD.SABI niya IISA lang ang LORD sa Iglesia ang CRISTO,kaya hindi ito dapat ITAWAG kahit kaninong Tao sa isang RELIHIYON.Magtawagan aniya kayo ng MAGKAKAPATID gaya ng utos ng CRISTO.Sino ngayon ang MANGLALABAG sa UTOS ng CRISTO at Paalaala ng ka EGM? SAGUTIN nyo muna ang 2 tanong ko,hindi yang banat kayo ng banat at INILILIHIS NINYO ang usapan.Manang-mana kayo sa TATAY nyo!!Sa mga MAMBABASA .malinaw ang mga tanong ko na AYAW Nilang sagutin,kung ganyan lang ang gagawin ng mga Magagaling na ito,tama si ka A.dela Cruz na WALANG KABULUHANG makipagtalo sa mga ITO na pinipilit lang ang gustong ISAGOT na wala naman sa KATANUNGAN ko.SAGUTIN NYO YANG 2 TANONG KO.Kung di ninyo ito MASASAGOT ng ayong sa Biblia at Tuntunin,ISA lang KAHULUGAN–Wala kayo sa KATOTOHANAN.Ikaw 2054,sabi mo duwag ako dahil ayaw kong magpakilala,NABASA mo ba ang SAGOT KO?? Si Rizal nagtago sa pangalang DIMASALANG–DUWAG ba si RIZAL? Ang CRISTO sabi sa mga ALAGAD,HUWAG ninyong SASABIHIN na Ako ang CRISTO Mateo16:20—HINDI mo rin ito SINAGOT,Mana ka talaga kay mr.OWE na mana sa TATAY nyo ang AMA ng Sinungaling!!ITO ang mga SAGUTIN nyo! Paano yan DUWAG si RIZAL at ang P.JESUCRISTO dahil “ITINAGO” ang tunay nilang NGALAN?? Hitman ka pala,Magaling ka siguro sa Baril at Pagtiklo sa mga Ipatitira sa iyo ano??

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  16. Kung nasaktan ka mr.OWE sa sinabi kong BOBO,di PATUNAYAN MO na di kayo BOBO sa MAAYOS na sagot na Katotohanan.Di iyan na kung ano-ano ang sagot nyo na PAIWAS sa mga TANONG ko. NASAKTAN ka sa sinabi kong BOBO,di ba MAS MASAKIT AT INSULTO sinabi ngLORD EVM mo na “pag HINDI NINYO/MO naramdaman ang Kapangyarihan sa mga pagsamba “TANGA” ka/kayo! Di ba,sinabi NIYA yan na naka WEBEX pa at kalat sa BUONG MUNDO!! At least yang BOBO may GAMOT,Mag-aral kang Mabuti kahit papaano MATUTO KA!! IYANG sinabi ng Lord EVM mo na TANGA,WALANG GAMOT!! Iyong LUKO-LUKO o NALOLOKO may HOSPITAL,pero yang TANGA walang Hospital.SINO ngayon ang BASTOS at MASAKIT magsalita ako o AMONG mo? SAGOT ng MAAYOS,sige sino ang walang MODO,isipin mo sa PANAHON pa ng PAGSAMBA sinabi ITO!!!! Sagoottt,maayos at katotohanan ha? Tutal malakas ka naman sa Kanila bakit di mo ipa-replay mga WebEx ng AMO moat MARIRINIG mo ULI doon ang sinabi NIYANG ITO at iyong PAGSUSUGO ng DIOS ay “INCIDENTAL” at marami pang iba..subukan mo Mr.OWE and 2054Hitman ha ha hahahaaaaa!!!

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  17. Kaya Mr.OWE n 2054 ingat sa pagsamba,PILITIN NINYONG madama ang Kapangyarihan,pag di nyo ito NADAMA–TANGA kayo!! Nakakaawa mga kapatid na Sumasmba,tapos di Nakadama sa mga Pagtuturo ng ministro o kahit na si Lord EVM ang nagturo–Tanga ka,paano yan mga katalo ko!! Hay nakuuuu onyok!!!

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    1. Paano ba ang natatandaan Ang kapangyarihan Ng Diyos? Hindi porque Hindi ka umiyak ay hindi mo na naramdaman Ang kapangyarihan Ng Diyos sapagkat ang Isa pa sa pagdaloy Ng kapangyarihan Ng Diyos ay kapag sumunod ka- sa utos Ng Diyos.

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  18. Heto talata na nagkasala ang sayawan.sinulat ko na ito di mo kasi binabasa eh! PANAGHOY aklat na sulat ni Propeta JEREMIAS 5:15-16 “Ang Kagalakan ng aming puos ay naglikat;ang aming SAYAW ay napalitan ng Tangisan.Sa ABA namin!sapagkat KAMI ay NANGAGKASALA. Ano ibinunga ng Pagsasayaw o sayawan nila–KASALANAN.Kaya Bawal iyan nung panhon pa ng SUGO at Ipinatupad din ng ka EGM.Ang Israelita sayawan ng sayawan sa tabi nung binubong gintong toro kay a sa GALIT ni Moises IPINUKOL ang 10 Utos basahin mo sa Exodo.Ipinagtatanggol mo pa ang SAYAWAN sa harapan ng mga kapilya at sa Tabernakulo na MAHAROT at KEMBUTAN ng KEMBUTAN at AALOG-ALOG mga Dibdib ng mga kapatid na BABAE.SA iyo HINDI ITO MASAGWA?? Wow OWE nga kayo!! Isinulat ko na ito dun sa sagot ko kay Bantay salakay,basahin mo uli.Ang SAYAW na maharot o mahalay ayNAHUHULOG sa mga KALAYAWAN ng LAMAN.Ang gawang nas LAMAN hindi ikapagmamana ng Kaharian ng DIOS Galaacia 5:19-21 basahin mo ito na sulat ni apostol Pablo sa mga taga-Galacia.WALA kang alam na talata kundi Heb.13:17.Hindi mo ba alam na sinabi ni ka EGM na “Pasakop KAYO sa Pamamhala ng nakasalig at nakabatay sa BIBLIA”.Kapag WALA sa BIBLIA o MALI ang Ipatutupad,HUWAG Kayong SUSUNOD”!! Ang SUGO basta WALA o KALABAN ng BIBLIA HUWAG kayong SUSUNOD!! Heto pa ang PAYO ng ka EGM–“SINOMAN SIYA,ANOMAN SIYA,pag ang DALANG ARAL o TURO,WALA o KALABAN ng BIBLIA,ITAKWIL NINYO—MAGKAISA at MAGKADIWA sina ka FYM at ka EGM at Apostol Pablo Galacia 1:8 Basahin mo/ninyo ni 2054!!Tuwing sisitas ka puro Heb.13:17 kawawa ka naman,iyan lang SINASAMPALATAYANAN mong talata at kabisadong-kabisado mo pa!!Katulad ka nga ng mga kaibigan ko dito na EVM na EVM na sabi,KAHIT MALI si EVM,susunod pa rin kami,kasi TP sya eh.Kalaban ng sinabi ng ka EGM,pag MALI huwag kang susunod.Iyon lang salitang MALI eh alam mo ng Mali,susunod ka pa rin–Bulag at Panatiko ka na talaga! Saan sinabi ng DIOS,CRISTO at mga APOSTOL–kahit MALI kami o ang turo namin Sumunod kayo,kasi DIOS ako,kasi si Cristo ako,kasi mga Apostol kami!! KAILAN itinuro ng mga APOSTOL na si SANTIAGO na UNANG TP sa INC ng Unang Siglo “Ang PINAKAIMPORTANTENG TAO sa BUONG MUNDO?? Sagooottt saan talata,saang talata ng Bagong tipan Mababasa ITO!! Kayo ang mga MAPAGKATHA ng mga ARAL at TURO na WALA sa BIBLIA.Sige sagutin nyo ito ng may KATOTOHANAN,di yan kung ano-anong sagot at iwas sa mga TANONG ko!! INTIENDE??

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  19. Bibliko ito ang nilalaman Ng Jer. 5:15-16, iba sa sinasabi mo, Hindi ko alam kung nagkamali ka lang o nagsisinungaling ka… sabagay Hindi na isang bagong bagay kung kasinungalingan Ang sinasabi kasi ang Ama mo ay Ang ama Ng mga sinungaling…. Pero baka naman nagkamali ka lang sa talata.

    ” Narito, dadalhin ko ang bansa sa inyo na mula sa malayo, Oh sangbahayan ni Israel, sabi ng Panginoon: siyang makapangyarihang bansa, siyang matandang bansa, isang bansa na ang wika ay hindi mo naiintindihan, o nababatid mo man kung ano ang kanilang sinasabi.
    Jeremias 5 :15

    16 Ang kanilang lalagyan ng pana ay bukas na libingan, silang lahat ay makapangyarihang lalake.”
    Jeremias 5 :16

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  20. These EVM ATTACK DOGS remind me those days i deal with ADD SCREAMING WHORES abroad. After the encounter, i regretted. To give notice to these EVM ATTACK SUICIDAL DOGS will only inspire them to vomit their abominable spirits. They are comparable to ” THE SIX BLIND MEN AND THE ELEPHANT..” This 2009 era inc administration is doomed and its fall is forthcoming: The Food Aid Tragedy that KILLED 8 people in Lusaka Zambia Africa is one proof God’s Spirit is gone and left this leadership and its cohorts…

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  21. This present INC Leadership is that of a DREADED, FEARSOME(nakakatakot!!) KIND. May God’s Mercy Be Upon Those Who Went Missing Just Because They Care Of EGM’s Family…& May God’s Wrath & Curse Befall Them Who Has Hand On This..

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  22. Bibliko, sana naintindihan mo ang talatang ginamit mo kasi ang nakasulat ” Ang aming sayawan ay napalitan ng tangisan, sapagkat kami ay nngagkasala” Hindi sinabi na sila ay nagkasala dahil sa sayawan na gusto mong palabasin. Bakit ba napalitan ng tangisan Ang sayawan nila? Dahil nagkasala sila, Sabi nga sa Talatang “7 Ang aming mga magulang ay nagkasala at wala na; At aming pinasan ang kanilang mga kasamaan.
    Mga Panaghoy”. Kaya napalitan Ang sayawan Ng tangisan dahil sa kasalanan Ng kanilang magulang na naging dahilan Ng pagkasakop sa kanila Ng ibang bansa. Si haring David man sumayaw Ng pagpupuri sa Panginoong Diyos.

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  23. These EVM Attack Dogs Seem To Have Forgotten That The Issues At Hand Giving Sleepness Nights To EVM & The Sanggunian Are So Clear And Everyone On The Planet Earth Knows About These…It’s The Corruption And Its Going On Unabatedly!!! This EVM INC Is A Big Business Empire…

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