Give me a Beat!

“Yo… Yo.. uhh.. uhh.. Yo… I’M BACK! uhh… ya’ll ready?”
Yeah, I thought about “freestylin” for a moment but my senses got the better of me. I just saw this sign online and I was like, “yo, what up wit dat, dawg?” (I’m sorry, I couldn’t resist). For some who are not fully ‘getting’ my very dry humour, I am referring to the activity that was recently held in Fremont, California that includes “Hip-Hop”.

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I thought, perhaps I am getting too old but then again, this is not a matter of age or generations, this is a matter of church doctrine where the Bible stated: “do not conform to the standards of the world”. It may considered popular with today’s youth but it is no reason to permit our youth to conform to its popularity.

One of the main elements of Hip Hop is the rap music. It may have started in the late 70’s or early 80’s as “street or block party music” but is now more associated with gangs, violence, materialism, foul language and degradation of women. The popularity of “gangsta rap” with the likes of N.W.A., Ice Cube, Eminem and other rappers influencing today’s youth. If the Church leaders will encourage the youth to listen to this kind of music, are we not encouraging them to listen and imitate such negative and worldly matters? Tell me, what image is in your head when you think of “Rappers”? Guys with trousers down to their knees? Snoop Dogg smoking weed? Chris Brown? (hmm) Is this where our youth will get their source material? One could argue, “then just don’t listen to the ‘bad rapping’”. Most of today’s rap music IS either about arrogance, sex, violence, drugs and every form of evil. Tell me, when was the last time you heard “clean, pure, positive rapping with no foul language”? Or perhaps they can listen to other religions perhaps? Other churches that promote the Trinity perhaps? Is this where they shall get their source? Have we forgotten what the Scriptures declared? Because this was drilled in our heads when we were young: “do not imitate the detestable customs of those nations.”

I am not opposed to music. I am not opposed to the youth being up to date or modern. But we cannot permit them to be influenced by such negative matters of this world. Why not be original? Create music that is not associated with gangsta, drugs or foul language. It is not just a matter of changing lyrics to make it wholesome; it is a genre that is built upon the image of street and breaking of the law. I have seen young brethren use the term “INC4Life”. Where do you think that originated? Original? Try N.W.A’s (pardon me) “Niggaz4Lyfe“ which was the first gangsta album. Is this where the Church is headed? Just to keep connected with the youth we would permit them to listen to hip hop? If they learn to appreciate this genre wouldn’t they listen to the most popular ones like Jay-Z and 50 Cent? This is in total contrast to what should be taught to them. Instead of teaching them to avoid these, we are encouraging them to sample and learn this genre and everything that goes with it. Remember what God wanted from the teachers of the law?:
“And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.”

Somehow, that line is becoming more blurred when the young brethren are permitted to act and perform like rappers.

This is what we were taught the Apostles taught:
Since you are God’s people, it is not right that any matters of sexual immorality or indecency or greed should even be mentioned among you. Nor is it fitting for you to use language which is obscene, profane, or vulgar. Rather you should give thanks to God.”

Let us ask the Church Council to go back to the basics. Don’t try to be hip because you don’t want to lose the youth. Let the word of God be their strength. Let them remain holy. Let them learn how to truly give glory to God with hearts that are pure.

As they say.. Peace Out.


7 thoughts on “Give me a Beat!

  1. And what about choral music? The style of choral music the INC uses in its worship services stems from the same style use from the “satanic” Catholic church. Not to mention choral music originated from the Greeks, who were pagans. Following your logic, God wouldn’t be very pleased with the Iglesia now, huh?

    If you promote this kind of attitude you are encouraging future generations of the INC to be prejudiced, bigoted, and closed-minded. Let us not teach them to condemn a genre of music simply because it is associated with violence and drugs, because you would also be teaching the members to condemn those who enjoy this genre of music.

    If a rap song contains foul language, or glorifies violence or drugs, the condemnation would be justified, but to condemn it simply because it is associated with crime? That would be very unchristian.

    As proof, here is an account from Matthew 9:9-13 : (which can also be found in Mark 2:13-17)

    ‘As Jesus went on from there, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax collector’s booth. “Follow me,” he told him, and Matthew got up and followed him.

    While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew’s house, many tax collectors and sinners came and ate with him and his disciples. When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?”

    On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” ‘

    As we can see, Jesus was not afraid to be associated with criminals and taught us not to look at them with disdain. If we want to call ourselves Christians, we must imitate his example.


    1. Please read the post again. See, this is where one of the problem lies. Some do not really read the message. Some just want to reply. If you will notice, “It may have started in the late 70’s or early 80’s as “street or block party music” but is now more associated with gangs, violence, materialism, foul language and degradation of women.” . It has nothing to do with being prejudice or bigoted. My point is, if you will encourage the Church youth to rap, what will be their SOURCE MATERIAL? How much rap nowadays give positive image? I am referring to RAP that is prevalent, popular and what most of the youth listen to -that is rap that is connected to violence against women, foul language and lewd behaviour.

      How can you compare the INC church music it to satanic choral music when there is choral music in the Bible? You are quoting verses in the Bible about Jesus and sinners when the topic is about songs? The INC does not imitate Catholic choral music but it is based on Scriptures:

      “And David was clothed with a robe of fine linen, and all the Levites that bare the ark, and the singers, and Chenaniah the master of the song with the singers: David also had upon him an ephod of linen.

      Thus all Israel brought up the ark of the covenant of the LORD with shouting, and with sound of the cornet, and with trumpets, and with cymbals, making a noise with psalteries…”
      1 Chronicles 15:27-28

      Which brings me exactly to my point. That is the style of music that is described in the Bible. It has nothing to do about race, ethnicity or colour. It is about where our youth would get their material to hear and learn hip-hop. It is not bigotry. It is about preserving the Christian culture and not mixing with the worldly culture which is why I quoted: “do not imitate the detestable customs of those nations.” There has to be distinction between what is holy and unholy.


  2. ^_^ You will never post my comment anyway. So anyway, the Church’s hip hop message is clear: there were no foul words indeed. You should hear nationalistic & patriotic hip hop lyrics as well. We are now able to deliver God’s Message to the Hip Hop adherents and we are gathering the fruits of our labor in bringing them back to God. Bitter? Why do you think Ampalaya is bitter? That’s why they say in our native song “Bahay Kubo”. Because it was never included in that song! Nyahahaha! (Y)


    1. Hello again brother Edwin. I was wondering where you’ve been. Thank you for following. Literally. It’s good you can find “nationalistic and patriotic” hip hop lyrics. I am assuming those are in the Philippines. I believe I remember Francis M’s rap song. That was patriotic wasn’t it? I don’t remember the the lyrics. Unfortunately, there is not much else for the youth to go on except the current popular rap stars. Hip Hop in itself was not bad. There were fun songs in the past, which is quite different from the rap now. The only one I can think of is Pharell. But aside from that, hard to find decent ones.

      I am curious. Where does that “Bitter” come from? I’ve seen that before. Is it me? No brother. I am still in church. Please read the topic “On Prayer”. I mentioned there I attended the Webex Worship Service, in case you were thinking I am expelled. If you mean Bitter because there are all kinds of anomalies and injustice being committed, then by all means, then call me Bitter.

      One last thing, I noticed, you do read my posts, yet you don’t comment on certain ones like the MDC or the Prayer topics. No response to those?


      1. Bro Edwin has no answer for those issues that’s why he’s silent. Anyway, we’re in the same brotherhood, he’s on the side that will fight for the church for whatever it will take him, That’s indeed a good fight – to defend the CHURCH – depending of what he understand about what it is.

        For us, we are depending the CHURCH – means US, every member that consist of the body. We are depending it against to some decays so it’ll make the body strong.

        When all these things come out in the open, regrets will flow every where from every corner. What will be your feelings by then Bro Edwin,… —- only you can answer that.

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      2. Well, what answer can you expect from a brainwashed minion?
        – “Bitter!”
        – “Mga inggit!”
        – “Mga tiwalag!”
        – “Mga sinungaling!”
        – “Fallen Angels!”
        .. and the list goes on. And yet, they fail to answer us clearly.


  3. I remember during my younger days that the song “we are the world” is forbidden to be sung by an member simply because of the message “we are the world – sanlibutan”. Is it still consistent with what we practice and the kind of reasoning we cling on today?

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